File spoon-archives/foucault.archive/foucault_2001/foucault.0108, message 12


Subject: Re: Nietzsche
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 04:29:20 +0000


Dear Kenneth -- you seem rather exasperated and sort of frothing at the 
mouth? I am not sure, as I don t say 'l'anglais' is my choice of 
language(s), but it seems to me you
ride a spiral
of rage
it is cute as girls there might say some days
when they feel to it.
Now you ask me what? the forward message has to say for Nietzsche and then 
you also said Philosophy and Deleuze. Well, I should say I believe what was 
sent was counter-propanda to the Israeli war-machine; this machine would 
bear some resemblance to the world gloabal war machine; and also that is 
some link to master-slave and so on and into some other links; perhaps if 
you listen to the report and hear how life is for some people in the Gaza 
strip you might see that there is a relation; for instance is this current 
Al Asqa Intifata a molecular revolt against a molar state machine; I would 
say yes, and I am sure GDeborder would agree also. But that is also perhaps 
a pretend link? I do not believe so; but if you think so, that is your 
affair; now to Nietzsche it is about Power, and slave and maitre. Over-man; 
are the Israeli state war lords seeing themselves as Over-man or Superman in 
the American sense of being good guy cop fighting dirty dog Batman badguy 
dirty arab dog?? I think so, yes, and perhaps worse, because Mister Bush and 
his gang like it that way? Same way they like Saddam Hussein to stay in 
Baghdad and not go away. Or perhaps there is an Abstract war machine 
over-laid on the top of other state war machines against the nomad(ic)(?) 
intifata? Were, for instane the use of scud missiles by Iraq an example of 
guerrila tactics being taken over by Other's state war machine; I refer to 
the quick footed movement of Iraqui air-force against the "allied Armada" in 
the Gulf "war." or was that merely a clever ploy used to outwit fancy fast 
techno states of the West? Or was it both and more , a perhaps combination 
of all mad warstate machines overcoding an explosion against implosion, and 
the recent capture of Milosovic another example of double black-mail as 
Zizek has put it.
So you see dear Sir, there are things we can use here: and besides perhaps 
you did listen to the broadcast, and then as a human you might have fellow 
feeling for those in war torn Palestine?
I dont know; but when I see hear and read of war in Palestine, I see the 
face of Nietzsche and Foucault and Deleuze in the strife, and I see Felix 
Guattari and so many others, so many others without names and I sense their 
names do something, because their thought is connected to the struggles of 
all men against their oppressors
;; but perhaps you like Guillame Debord and you think it is more beter to 
tell us stories about students getting kicked by GD. WHich I don't believe 
for a moment, and that sort of anecdote, by the Guillame this sally is for 
you, that sort of thing is for gossip columns, and I think it has its place,
but you don't so. See where your charity goes Mister KJ.

>From: Kenneth Johnson <poochiegraig-AT-home.com>
>Reply-To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: deleuze-guattari-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: Nietzsche
>Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:37:51 -0700
>
>
>What in the holiest of all the 3 billion holy arbitrary fucking hells does
>any of this have directly to do with your subject line above: re:
>Nietzsche?
>
>of course everything, and i mean 'every "thing" "as" everything', relates
>directly to N, but this minor psyche crap should be 'posted' only and
>directly to the juvenile ears of some "liberal" list's (y)ear.lings, not
>here on a philosophy list, least of all deleuze's.
>
>get real genet chile, grow a bit taller, ay? a yard or two above all the
>ground level zero liberal/conservative fencings round inside the eternal
>child's fetish of nuclear tipped arrows - - -?
>
>for if you "become taller", and thereby extend your reach, you can then dig
>deeper - -
>
>and perhaps "become able" finally to really read Nietzsche, from the inside 
>- -
>
>regarde,
>kenneth
>
>u rote:
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