File spoon-archives/foucault.archive/foucault_2001/foucault.0109, message 122


Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jivko Georgiev <jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Foes and allies and walls and aid


Thats a perffect idea! But as I know, when it was up
to the terrorism the intelegencies of east and west
were in cooperation.


--- Lionel Boxer <lboxer-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> There is a rumour that the reason the Berlin Wall
> came down was due to the 
> former Soviet Unions inability to deal with
> terrorism without the aid of the 
> West.  Aparently there were rabble-rowsers dropped
> in to stir up the East 
> Germans.
> 
> It is interesting to trace the history of US miltary
> aid, its foes and its 
> allies.
> 
> >From: Jivko Georgiev <jivkox43georgiev-AT-yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> >Subject: Re: Second essay by Robert Fisk
> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Excuse me for my persisting and borring
> involvement,
> >but here is said, that The Soviet Union fell appart
> -
> >Russia, as I know, is still there, never felled
> appart
> >realy.
> >
> >The Problem with russia, when was the war with
> >affghanistan, was that Thallibans were regularly
> >supplied by USA and Pakistan. They were trained by
> >USA, in fact.
> >
> >Jivko
> >
> >--- Christopher Daly <dalyjazz-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >By Robert Fisk
> > > >12 September 2001
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >So the mountains of Afghanistan will be
> > > photographed
> > > >from satellite and
> > > >high-altitude aircraft in the coming days, Mr
> bin
> > > >Laden's old training
> > > >camps  and perhaps a few new ones  highlighted
> on
> > > the
> > > >overhead
> > > >projectors in the Pentagon. But to what end?
> When
> > > >America last tried to
> > > >strike at Mr bin Laden, it destroyed an
> innocent
> > > >pharmaceuticals plant
> > > >in Sudan and a few of Mr bin Laden's Muslim
> > > followers
> > > >in Afghanistan.
> > > >For if this is a war between the Saudi
> millionaire
> > > and
> > > >President Bush's
> > > >America, it cannot be fought like other wars.
> > > Indeed,
> > > >can it be fought
> > > >at all without some costly military adventure
> > > >overseas.
> > > >
> > > >Or is that what Mr bin Laden seeks above all
> else?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >      --- from list
> > > >postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Absolutely.  The Soviet Union fell apart largely
> > > because of the conflict in
> > > Afghanistan.  If we invade Afghanistan in search
> of
> > > bin Laden and other
> > > terrorists, we will be there for years with
> marginal
> > > results and having sown
> > > the seeds of hate in the next generation from
> the
> > > region.  Only fools, macho
> > > men and bullies retaliate.  Sober individuals
> with a
> > > knowledge of history
> > > and the current situation reform the prevailing
> > > conditions that led to such
> > > actions.
> > >
> > > As Dustin Hoffman's character in "Little Big
> Man"
> > > says to Custer just before
> > > he charged into his last stand, "You go down
> there
> > > and you won't be coming
> > > back."
> > >
> > > There is no doubt that the attck that occurred
> on
> > > 9/11 was years in the
> > > planning and there is also no doubt that bin
> Laden
> > > as well as Afghanistan
> > > and other countries of the region have prepared
> for
> > > reprisals.
> > >
> > > What should we do?  Simply strengthen security
> and
> > > renegotiate the entire
> > > set of issues that concern these people.  This
> is an
> > > act of war but there is
> > > no requirement that we should respond in kind.
> > >
> > >
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