From: "Christopher Daly" <dalyjazz-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Second essay by Robert Fisk Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:09:55 -0400 <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P> </P> <P>Jivko,</P> <P>I don't understand your response, really. Are you posing a question? The history of the region is long and complex but my comments were meant to simply point out that if we change the conditions that lead to such desperate acts we may be able to avoid them in the future whereas if we respond in kind - fight violence with violence - it is likely we continue and prolong the hatred and cycle of violence that already exists.<BR></P><BR><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Jivko Georgiev <JIVKOX43GEORGIEV-AT-YAHOO.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu <DIV></DIV>>To: foucault-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Second essay by Robert Fisk <DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:22:33 -0700 (PDT) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Excuse me for my persisting and borring involvement, <DIV></DIV>>but here is said, that The Soviet Union fell appart - <DIV></DIV>>Russia, as I know, is still there, never felled appart <DIV></DIV>>realy. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>The Problem with russia, when was the war with <DIV></DIV>>affghanistan, was that Thallibans were regularly <DIV></DIV>>supplied by USA and Pakistan. They were trained by <DIV></DIV>>USA, in fact. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Jivko <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>--- Christopher Daly <DALYJAZZ-AT-HOTMAIL.COM>wrote: <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > >By Robert Fisk <DIV></DIV>> > >12 September 2001 <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > >So the mountains of Afghanistan will be <DIV></DIV>> > photographed <DIV></DIV>> > >from satellite and <DIV></DIV>> > >high-altitude aircraft in the coming days, Mr bin <DIV></DIV>> > >Laden's old training <DIV></DIV>> > >camps and perhaps a few new ones highlighted on <DIV></DIV>> > the <DIV></DIV>> > >overhead <DIV></DIV>> > >projectors in the Pentagon. But to what end? When <DIV></DIV>> > >America last tried to <DIV></DIV>> > >strike at Mr bin Laden, it destroyed an innocent <DIV></DIV>> > >pharmaceuticals plant <DIV></DIV>> > >in Sudan and a few of Mr bin Laden's Muslim <DIV></DIV>> > followers <DIV></DIV>> > >in Afghanistan. <DIV></DIV>> > >For if this is a war between the Saudi millionaire <DIV></DIV>> > and <DIV></DIV>> > >President Bush's <DIV></DIV>> > >America, it cannot be fought like other wars. <DIV></DIV>> > Indeed, <DIV></DIV>> > >can it be fought <DIV></DIV>> > >at all without some costly military adventure <DIV></DIV>> > >overseas. <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > >Or is that what Mr bin Laden seeks above all else? <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > --- from list <DIV></DIV>> > >postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > Absolutely. The Soviet Union fell apart largely <DIV></DIV>> > because of the conflict in <DIV></DIV>> > Afghanistan. If we invade Afghanistan in search of <DIV></DIV>> > bin Laden and other <DIV></DIV>> > terrorists, we will be there for years with marginal <DIV></DIV>> > results and having sown <DIV></DIV>> > the seeds of hate in the next generation from the <DIV></DIV>> > region. Only fools, macho <DIV></DIV>> > men and bullies retaliate. Sober individuals with a <DIV></DIV>> > knowledge of history <DIV></DIV>> > and the current situation reform the prevailing <DIV></DIV>> > conditions that led to such <DIV></DIV>> > actions. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > As Dustin Hoffman's character in "Little Big Man" <DIV></DIV>> > says to Custer just before <DIV></DIV>> > he charged into his last stand, "You go down there <DIV></DIV>> > and you won't be coming <DIV></DIV>> > back." <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > There is no doubt that the attck that occurred on <DIV></DIV>> > 9/11 was years in the <DIV></DIV>> > planning and there is also no doubt that bin Laden <DIV></DIV>> > as well as Afghanistan <DIV></DIV>> > and other countries of the region have prepared for <DIV></DIV>> > reprisals. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > What should we do? Simply strengthen security and <DIV></DIV>> > renegotiate the entire <DIV></DIV>> > set of issues that concern these people. 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