Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:31:40 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?eldorra=20mitchell?= <manynotone-AT-yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: history of palestine


Dear Lionel -- when I say that your ideas are
paranoiaque I do NOt mean they are Wrong. I suggest
that you can use the paranoiac idea as a critical and
heuristic tool 




--- Erik Hoogcarspel <jehms-AT-kabelfoon.nl> wrote: >
Lionel, you would be paranoiaic if you would suggest
> that the Free
> constructionworkers were the only factor. This is
> not how I understand you. And
> there are other causes of cours.
> It's not only in creating the state of Israel, but
> also in supporting it in all
> activities of religious terrorism that western
> countries have contributed to the
> present situation. And that cannot only be blamed on
> the Free Masons. I think
> the orthodox Protestant movements are much stronger
> and all consider the Jews as
> the choosen people. In the U.S. many hospitals have
> taken over the practice of
> circumsizing babies, just because it's a jewish
> custom (any neutral medical
> expert will tell you that there's no medical or
> hygienic reason to do such a
> thing, in fact it's as intelligent as trying to keep
> your feet clean by throwing
> all you're shoes and socks away).
> Here in Holland I've met quite some people who will
> not hear any critic on the
> Israeli politics, because they've spent a year in a
> kibbuts or because they
> still feel guilty about the shoah and see the Jews
> as the innocent prosecuted
> underdog. And there's no room for nuance. Anyone who
> says that orthodox Jews are
> arrogant bastards, is supposed to be a friend of
> Hitler's.
> 
> erik
> 
> Lionel Boxer wrote:
> 
> > I don't think my comments are paranoiaic at all. 
> They do not worry me if
> > that is what you are referring to ... rather they
> explain why the English
> > created the State of Isreal.  They saw it as their
> duty to make it happen.
> >
> > In an article about Gadamer, Outwaite (in Skinner
> (1985, p. 24)) explains:
> > 'This notion of projection tends to be
> misunderstood in the Anglo-Saxon
> > world as a mysterious kind of empathy, but what
> Dilthey (1958) and others
> > really had in mind was a much more cerebral
> process based on a common sphere
> > of experience.
> >
> > This Masonry was indeed a common sphere of
> experience and the English did
> > not (and perhaps still do not) 'know what they do
> does', to quote another
> > idea of Foucault.  If a whole nation attend
> monthyly meetings that reinforce
> > the notion that Jews are meant to be in Isreal
> then they will gain
> > satisfaction in seeing that take place.
> >
> > Just an idea.  Not paranoiaic.
> >
> > After reading a bit of Foucualt, I get the feeling
> that the English race
> > does not understand alegory to the same degree
> that the French and Russians
> > do.
> >
> > ---------------
> > guillame debord <guydeborder-AT-yahoo.ca>
> > Some of those things that you are saying are quite
> > parnoiaic. Very good and nice, I like that mad
> > critical nuts which reads things into those weird
> > movements de la passe!!
> >
> >
>
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