Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:40:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Jamie Owen Daniel <jdaniel-AT-uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Habermas and Kluge


Patrick, and anyone else:

The book by Negt and Kluge that you mention, OEFFENTLICHKEIT UND
ERFAHRUNG, was a response to Habermas, was published in German in 1971,
and was translated just a few years back finally as PUBLIC SPHERE AND
EXPERIENCE in the THL series at Minnesota Press.  I am one of the three
translators who worked through it.

The "sequel" is GESCHICHTE UND EIGENSINN, also co-authored by Negt and
Kluge, which will probably remain untranslated.

I would like to discuss these both at some point when I'm not going off to
teach, if others are interested.

Jamie Owen Daniel
University of Illinois at Chicago

On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Patrick Scott wrote:

> 
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Kenneth MacKendrick wrote:
> 
> > ok.  i'm done with this habermas guy.  whose next?
> 
> 
> After viewing the six reasons you don't like Habermas, I recalled that
> there was a work by Kluge which was a response to _The Structural
> Transformation of the Public Sphere_ that came out fairly early, and that
> a revised version (or perhaps a new book with a revised angle-I'm
> unclear on it) of immense length was recently finished (with recent
> meaning closer to the present time than the other book--I'm not sure of
> the dates, titles, or references).
> 
> Apparently, this long book is available only in German (to my knowledge),
> and I was curious if anyone on the list has read it yet, and what they
> thought of it.	
> 
> I would also like to thank Ralph for showing us an example of his
> erudite manner:  I was never familiar with the conjugations of
> "shithead"--perhaps one can be truly "enlightened" through this internet thing.
> 
> -pat
> scott931-AT-uidaho.edu
> 
>