Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:32:49 +0100 From: simon smith <clov-AT-cake2.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Ernst Bloch on Jazz, Kitsch and Colportage In article <3.0.3.32.19990514130109.0069df6c-AT-pop2.igc.org>, Ralph Dumain <rdumain-AT-igc.org> writes >>The critique of Jazz, the jitterbug, is just that it facilitates >the >reduction of body to a machine, just as it simulates its >liberation. This >is jazz as I have heard it. > >This is to prove only what a pathetic, vapid shit you are. There is, of >course, no content whatever in this utterance; just a quotation of >authority. Yet what is at issue here is who has authority in these matters >and on what basis. (other abuse snipped) I have not personally insulted you once. Academic discussion as personal aggression, the use of language as a weapon, is as far as I can imagine from the spirit of the Frankfurt School, and its refusal is integral to the work of both Adorno and Benjamin. I felt strongly against jazz well before I read Adorno and went into a critique of his ideas. I really don't see what place pugilism has on this list. It was one of the things I hoped to escape from when I subscribed. I have got myself embroiled in internet 'flame wars' before and have resolved 'never again!'. Ego self- preservation and the rage of self against other always takes over. La de da. You will be pleased or not to know that I will be deleting your obnoxious posts from now on. -- simon
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