Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:30:30 -0400 From: csekouri-AT-deepcove.com (chloe sekouri) Subject: Re: chloe=bad ddd wrote > For all anyone knows, you yourself are >some dude tryin to rustle up a cyber-sex fling by posting as a >dyke-to-the-rescue. ;] Oh no-- found out at last !! >The "point"--excuse me--is this: if Don had posted as a "young girl," >whom you say you do spend the time to convert, you might have struck up >a kind of mentor-thing with her/him by now. I doubt it, because when I said I was a "young-girl-convertin''" lesbian, I was *kidding* (about the conversion part, anyway). Especially since there are at least as many "women" who don't have a >clue about gender issues as there are "men" who don't. In fact, in the >classes I teach, it tends to be young women who balk at the notion of >sexism. They are there, after all, in the university, planning their >future career, and thinking that the "system" has been pretty good to >THEM, thankyouverymuch. Why would they want to rock such a profitable >boat? And no doubt about it, their naive and privileged dismissal is >more damaging to "feminism" and gender theories than any dissenting >"male" voice would be. > >Simply b/c they are "women," they seem to have some authority on this >subject that no "man" can have. Forget class, geography, and historical >moment; forget race, forget education, forget any hint of felt >oppression--they are "women," and that's enough...As if women >monopolized the sphere of "the excluded." > >Ethos is incredibly important...and b/c Don is "DON," he has no ethos to >talk here, at least from this perspective. I'm only suggesting that it >is perhaps those very identity issues that will have been THE issues of >french feminism. It is perhaps our tendency to REact on the basis of >this gendered "identity"--as if it weren't fluid/electrified rather than >stable/enduring--that it is necessary to interrogate here. I don't disagree, but as an expereinced 'lurker' in cyberspace >Butler notes something we tend to (try to) forget: that "even the >theories of feminist identity that elaborate predicates of color, >sexuality, ethnicity, class, and able-bodiness invariably close with an >embarrassed 'etc.'" (BTM 143). In "Manifesto," Haraway states >explicitly why this is worth our attention: "painful fragmentation among >feminists (not to mention among women) along every possible fault line >has made the concept of woman elusive, an excuse for the matrix of >women's dominations of *each other*" (197). B/c the sexed body is >always already an effect of power, Butler argues that it ought to >continue to be an object of feminist inquiry but it ought NOT be invoked >as its *ground*. > >If we decide to ignore that argument, if "separatism" (in any sense of >that word) is posed as an answer *anyway*, then let's talk about how on >earth one would figure out how to draw the line. Let's talk about >whether it might or might not be more interesting, less dangerous, less >oppressive to blur lines of distinction rather than drawing lines in the >sand. > > >ddd > >-- > > DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD > D D > D D. Diane Davis D > D Rhetoric and Composition D > D Old Dominion University D > D dddavis-AT-metronet.com D > D http://www.odu.edu/gnusers/davis/ddd.htm D > D D > DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD > > *************************************************************** "The women who hate me cut me as men can't Men don't count. I can handle men. Never expected better of any man anyway. But the women, shallow-cheeked young girls the world was made for safe little girls who think nothing of bravado who never got over by playing it tough" Dorothy Allison ***************************************************************
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