Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 21:34:25 -0600
From: Karen Chapdelaine <kchap-AT-ripco.com>
Subject: Re: "Woman=good"


At 01:12 AM 7/6/96 -0500, the scintillating rebecca wrote:
>
>Chloe, my little combat boot,
>
>> Rebecca, my little pomegranate,
>> 
>> The easy answer to (allow me to paraphrase) 'why are you so mean to poor
>> Don, can't you see he's trying really hard not to be a sexist asshole?" is .
>> . . 
>> 
>>  I'm a boot-wearin', granola-eatin', natural fabric lovin', womyn
>> -with-a-"Y"- spellin', head-shavin', carpet munchin', traditional family
>> destroyin', young girl convertin', performance art-lovin',  man-hatin'
>> separatist dyke.
>
>You go girl. Didn't I see you in the mosh pit at Tribe 8? Too bad you 
>weren't around for the "is French feminism homophobic?" conversation. 
>
>> 
>>  Far be it from me  to suggest a more complex answer than that.  My great
>
>Well, fine. Me, I like complexity. 
>
>> hope is that Don has something to fear. If he spends all his time cowering
>> in a bunker somewhere, twitching with excitement because he's afraid  the
>> para-military feminist insurgency is about to kick in the door and
>> "deconstruct" him, then at least he won't post to this list. ( Hopefully,
>> he'll take some FF library books with him to his bunker.)
>> 
>> I thought that preaching to the converted *was* what we were supposed to do
>
>I don't really think there's any way to control what happens on a list 
>like this. If you really want to preach to the converted, find a reading 
>group of your three closest friends. Or, set up a truly separatist 
>(members-only) list. But don't expect, here, to shout down any views that 
>diverge from yours. 
>
>However, I'll give you credit for consistency if you really are a separatist.
>In that case, you certainly should address your comments only to women. 
>Only to dykes. Only to separatist dykes. Only to separatist dykes of your 
>particular political stripe. Wait, "young girl convertin'"? So you 
>sometimes preach to the non-converted? Hypocrite lectrice, ma semblable, ma 
>soeur?

Uh, you probably haven't read Sarah Hoagland's "Feminist Ethics" then.
She manages to very liberally define all women as (potential, I guess?) 
separatist dykes, though that is cutting the corners quite a bit in what she 
has to say (i.e., don't quote this, this is the "short version" for SURE).  
Actually, I find it rather friendly, I'd certainly rather deal with that
than the
spiny porcupine alternative perspective, if it is a little bit um...lacking in
precision...

Actually, when I read it I found that for most of the book, if I replaced 
"womyn" (etc...) with person, people, etc., it was damned good advice 
on how to be with people, for one thing.

(snip)

>> Oh and BTW-- I'm sure we *all* have better things to do than e-mail this
>> list. I know why I participate, though; I'm a crank who needs to vent her
>> spleen on unsuspecting others. It's fun. I'm given to understand that it's
>> mean-spirited  creeps like me that ruin the *wonderful* experience of e-mail
>> lists for everyone else, what with my  need to jump on every poor
>> unsuspecting innocent who merely subscribes because he wants to learn.  
>>Why do you subscribe?
>
>I subscribe to meet hot babes (Hi Selena). So Chloe, what are you doing next 
>saturday night?
>
>ciao bella,
>
>r.

Shameless flirt...

Love, and Balance,

Karen Chapdelaine
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