Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:51:32 +0800 From: scratchy-AT-iinet.net.au (Jenny Armstrong) Subject: Re: Natural Body At 8:41 2/8/2000, Tom McWilliams wrote: >>>"Don't you think that Nietzsche's physiological emphasis is a better vehicle >>>than Irigaray's to carry the notion of the Natural Body into Western >>>consciousness?" >>> >>>Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by the notion of the Natural Body? >>>And would one have to choose between Irigaray and Nietzsche? I think that >>>Irigaray's emphasis on mediation versus the immediate (which she calls >>>"woman's traditional task") would be important here. >>> >>>Catherine >>> >>> >> >>The natural body is my concept that the body should not have to be adorned >>--read "improved" --by some aspect of Western culture in order to be made >>publically acceptable. > >I like this idea, and I like your idea that Nietzche introduced it, albeit >in his sideways, incidental way. If so, he was largely misinterpreted, >which lends support to the idea. > >Most of the women I know who have stopped shaving weren't thinking of >Nieztche at all. Mostly they're hippies, or dead-heads. > >What other behaviors are you thinking of, that exhibit the return to the >'natural body'? > >-Tm It is taking Nietzsche's ideas a logical step further. The most tenuous ideas of Nietzsche are his sexism. When he seeks to remove the fundamental structures for slave morality, and then in the same mode, suggest that women would be better off being slaves, he is re-introducing it again. All the sickness and possessiveness of his mother and his sister are guaranteed to come back to haunt him (Or-- the next generations). But, if I am not mistaken, Nietzsche said that our Natural instincts are encased in our bodies. This accords with his Lamarckianism. To take Nietzsche's thoughts one step further is to eliminate christian servility and re-introduce his Lamarckianism. It basically means that 'being adorned' -- to Nietzsche a sign of slavery or "the second role", is unnecessary. Or, technically speaking, it's a choice. -- http://www.iinet.net.au/~scratchy/short2.html --- from list french-feminism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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