Subject: [FRENCH-FEMINISM]: RE: kristeva and the immigrant body; other things
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 06:45:59 -0800
From: "Poxon, J" <poxon-AT-saclink.csus.edu>



Ann,

Be sure to include "The Forgotten Mystery of Female Ancestry," from _Thinking the Difference_ (Routledge, 1994).

Judith

Judith Poxon
saclink.csus.edu

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Subject:	RE: kristeva and the immigrant body; other things
Do you mean Margaret Whitford's book on Irigaray (titled Luce Irigaray: Philosophy in the Feminine)?

I am currently trying to gathering all Irigarian material on the mother-daughter relationship, and once I have a bibliography done, I will try to remember to send it to the list!

best
Ann Cahill

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> From: 	owner-french-feminism-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU on behalf of Ashleigh Harris
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> Subject: 	RE: kristeva and the immigrant body; other things
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> Irigaray's 'Philosophy in the Feminine' is one of the places to look. 
> 
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> From: owner-french-feminism-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> [mailto:owner-french-feminism-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Lydia Perovich
> Sent: 01 March 2004 06:08 PM
> To: french-feminism-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> Subject: kristeva and the immigrant body; other things
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I find Kristeva's work on immigrant body/psyche always inspiring -- does
> 
> anybody know if other writers took off where *Strangers to Ourselves*
> ended, 
> and expanded the research of psychoanalysis of the immigrant and 
> foreign-language psyche?  Kristeva did it herself, but it seems mostly 
> through her psychoanalytic practice as she hasn't written any other book
> on 
> the topic (discounting *Nations Without Nationalism*).  I've recently
> heard 
> a Bernard Pivot's interview with Kristeva in his *Double je* and was 
> fascinated all over again.  In it, Kristeva talks about her own
> experience 
> of having acquired the second language as a veneer, a new layer of 
> consciousness over her body that underneath remained encased  in its 
> nocturnal memories of the 'mother' tongue...  And that literature
> (through 
> poetic language) and psychoanalysis helped her let the 'semiotic' of her
> 
> body burst through to the French language and thus reconcile various
> bits of 
> psyche that were adrift.  The whole process also stops the cycle of 
> psychosomatic illness that people living in a foreign language
> experience -- 
> as the old body stops giving signs through physical symptoms.
> 
> There's an excellent collection the *Psychoanalysis of Race* (ed. 
> Christopher Lane, '98) but that's the only title that I could think of
> that 
> pursues this line of research.
> 
> Also: for those of you who live in a "foreign" language, is your
> experience 
> much different from what Kristeva writes about?  I was always skeptical 
> about Kristeva's 'semiotic' as somehow more connected to the body than
> any 
> other type of signification -- I mean, that's a standard Kristeva
> critique, 
> there are no close bodily signification and far bodily signification,
> she is 
> falling pray to the old metaphysic dualism, blah blah blah...  I was 
> skeptical too -- until I emigrated.  Now I believe I have bodily
> reactions 
> to poetic language --that is, to poetic and polysemous adopted language.
> 
> Wading into that territory is much different than studying or working in
> 
> that same adopted language.  What is your experience?
> 
> *******
> 
> Another question.  Could anybody tell me in what book(s) Irigaray
> recommends 
> that philosophy refocus from the perennial father-son obsession to 
> mother-daughter dynamics?
> 
> Thank you for your help
> 
> Lydia
> 
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