Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:40:44 -0600 (MDT)
From: leo meeks <lmeeks-AT-du.edu>
Subject: Re: HAB: Habermas and the Frankfurt School


There is something not quite right in identifying Habermas' relation to 
Kant as a critical relation without going into the method or type of 
critique. i really think the difference between adorno and habermas, 
adorno and heidegger, adorno and marcuse, is the space occupied by Kant 
in the adornian textuality. The negative dialectic is not merely the 
inversion of the aporia, its end, or anything other than the writing of 
the negative (the aporetic) and its affirmation. So, the point i'm trying 
to make is that habermas writes in an idealist dialectic, like marcuse 
and heidegger, while adorno critiques from the aporetic materiality of 
writing itself.


-leo

On Fri, 5 May 1995, Lance Fletcher wrote:

> Antoine Goulem writes:
> 
>  > I suspect that one of the differences between the Frankfort school on the
>  > one hand, and Habermas and Apel, on the other hand, is their relationship
>  > with Kant, or at least with an openness to transcendental philosopy.
>  > Though Habermas and Apel are often reluuctant and apologetic in appealing
>  > to Kant and transcendental philosophy, their project of providing grounds
>  > for a theory of communicative action without appealing to particular
>  > features or interests of the discussants is as Kantian as Rawls' original
>  > position is.
>  
> I don't know about Apel, and I am not quite sure I understand what
> Antoine means by "appealing...," but it seems to me that Habermas is
> neither reluctant nor apologetic in stating the close relationship
> of his philosophical project to that of Kant.  It's just that the
> relationship is a critical one, so that Habermas informs the reader
> of his relationship to Kant primarily while he is distinguishing his
> project from that of Kant.  See, for example, pages 21-25 of
> Communication and the Evolution of Society.
>  
> Lance Fletcher
> 
> 
> 
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