Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:49:34 +1000
From: Rob Schaap <rws-AT-comserver.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: HAB: Some Comments on Gary's thoughts


G'day all,

Kewn had said:

>> We need to clarify the character of democracy a bit more
>> before we can think about this.  Habermas links democracy
>> and capitalism.  With friends like this...

and then Kelley said:

>Why is a social theory linking democracy and capitalism such a bad
>thing.   Marx, for example, argued that capitalism socialized
>production--the problem was of course that it didn't *appear* that
>way

I know this is a Habermas list, but I'd love Ken to read Ellen Meiksins
Wood's *Democracy Against Capitalism*.  If he's busy, he might get away
with reading part two only.  If he's really very, very busy, he just might
benefit from pages 204 to 237.  I promise it feeds straight into this
list's concerns (indeed it serves to elaborate upon and historically
contextualise Kelley's pithy note).

I hope to be back on this stuff by the weekend.

Love to all,
Rob.


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'It is questionable if all the mechanical inventions yet made have
lightened the day's toil of any human being.'    (John Stuart Mill)

"The separation of public works from the state, and their migration
into the domain of the works undertaken by capital itself, indicates
the degree to which the real community has constituted itself in
the form of capital."                                    (Karl Marx)

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