Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:14:07 -0800 From: Gary <gedavis-AT-pacbell.net> Subject: HAB: Re: Morals and the Good Life Michael S. suggests (10/23) Habermas' “Does Hegel’s critique of Kant apply to discourse ethics” as a useful way of carrying forward a good life vs. moral universalism line of questioning, which Ken reiterates from the communitarian-universalism conflict that he mentioned in early October, a conflict I took for granted when I began discussing “Employments” a while ago (as that conflict was recalled by others in responses to my questions in "HAB: Ethical life, moral interaction," late September). Habermas’ essay-- “Morality and ethical life: Does Hegel’s...,” in _MCCA_ is an excellent resource. Not only throughout does the essay address the context of what would, several years after its composition (1982 or so), become the communitarian-universalism debate overtly (in terms of special issues of a journal-or-two and an anthology-or -two), but moreover, in the essay’s final two sections, it directly addresses Ken’s humanitarian concerns. But I find no indication in Habermas’ essay of what Michael calls Habermas’ “pretty depressing failure to offer a convincing reply to the [Hegelian] critique.” Indeed, it’s a very clearly written essay, inasmuch as it does exactly what it sets out to do: affirms the Hegelian critique of Kant, while distinguishing from Kant the discourse ethics that Marxist Hegelians (among others) find to be basically Kantian. Habermas makes this distinction between Kant and discourse ethics in manifold ways (which I won't reiterate presently). Not only was there no “empty formalism” in Kant (contrary to Hegel’s presumptions), but the untenable presumptions that *do* belong to Kant (in keeping with Hegel's critique) are not constitutive aspects of discourse ethics. I could agree with Michael, though, that no one wants “‘practical impotence’” (to quote Michael quoting whomever), and “illicit smuggling” is most definitely a bad thing. But Habermas’ essay has a very subtle rendering of the relationship between “context-specific values” and an impartiality that makes no claim to being “neutral” in any simple sense. Michael writes: “If Habermas could give us a few instances in the field of law where the Hegelian critique is demonstrably wrong, then I would delighted to hear them.” But why should Habermas? He claims that the Hegelian critique of Kant is largely correct! But anti-Kantist readings of Habermas are demonstrably wrong (Habermas is a Kantian; Kant is wrong; therefore, Habermas is wrong), because Habermas' inspiration and influence by Kant's *project* is of the order of science's inspiration and influence by its history. And an instance from law where Habermas' post-Kantian character is demonstrated is his dependence on *the* dependence of argument on *intersubjective* standards of evidence, intersubjective standards of relevance, intersubjective standards of meaning, and intersubjective notions of justice. However, Habermas does show where the Hegelian *reading* of reality is wrong. Habermas shows this in _Knowledge and Human Interests_, to say the least. Habermas’ reliance on a notion of critique that is informed by cognitivist and clinical dynamics of emancipatory reflection is much beyond a Hegelian conception of so-called “dialectic”. So, I guess, I’m unable to be delightful for Michael, but I believe I’m being demonstrable, which is basic to law. Gary --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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