Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:01:15 -0800 Subject: HAB: Imagining deconstruction Structure, agency---system, lifeworld--metaphoricity, recursion--image, form--symbol, pattern, and invisible means that perpetuate blinders over reflection.... A sequence of postings this weeek that seem to move toward inwardness--or is it a “spirit”-calling toward deepened reflexivity? Whatever. But quite obviously, a discussion here could go anywhere--anywhere, that is, that words can refer one. But there’s some non sequitors in the sequence of postings--some willful (maybe) misreadings of the previous post that foster the sense of topicalness of whatever the poster wants to say. Brian misreads me, in order to seque into some very interesting points. Steve overreads Brian, perhaps, in order to seque into some very, VERY interesting points. And Antti! Ideally, though, one might wish for another to write in *accurate* response to oneself. And nothing prevents a person from asking for this--or pointing out a sense of having been misread, if that is perceived. On and on I could go with aspects of the ideal speaking situation that are easily exhibitable in interaction. Erik is quite misinformed about what Habermas has in mind by a notion of ideal speaking situation. Indeed, Erik’s posting is the most unrelated of the lot--which is no critique of Erik’s posting, because who says he’s supposed to post in accord with a particular ethic? Be that as it may, one can be as clear as seems appropriate about guidelines or norms of interaction, without in the slightest cutting off any freedom of appreciation for marginality-- what Antti anticipates (maybe anxiously) as a “fall into nothingness,” perhaps like the existential dread that stands in the shadows of Christopher Gontar’s query? In all cases, a mentality of unappreciated individuality seems to beckon, like a shared spirit that might motivate some emergent consensus of understanding about semiosis that is ambivalent toward Habermas’ interest in articulation and clarity that can be shared. As interesting as the inarticulated force of images, is the impressive richness of language that can be brought to bear upon the image--or in framing the image. The power of the word vis-a-vis the image is a beautiful thing. The escape from reflectivity that the image so commonly expresses (and tacitly registers in the permeability of one’s attention) is so little a matter of the image and is so *much* a matter of the conditions of perception--conditions we (who would subscribe to such a list as this) feel compelled to, in the long run, *articulate* or “consciously” understand. Contrary to Antti’s estimation of Habermas, I don’t think he’s at all “uneasy when it comes to the limits of rational justification,” because the indication of such limits (by those in a state of alienation from Habermas) is always so expressively vehement, which is something always opening itself to understanding and interpretation, as if expressing--if not longing for--the sharable cogency of what is allegedly beyond the pale. Anyway, I agree with Brian that “there is [not] an exact parallel between [a] system and life world and [b] structure and action.” What I indicated with respect to John Goldsworthy’s concern about a pair of concepts (structure and agency) that are *not* fundamental to Habermas’ analysis is that (it seems to me) his categorial pragmatics serves as the bridge between lifeworld and system *“in terms of which”* Habermas would consider the notions of structure and agency. The uselessness of a notion like structure is that it applies to everything! There’s nothing especially “social” about the notion, for it applies just as readily to everything psychological or everything physical. Granted, though, the notion of recursion is very constructive. I think of contemporary notions of emergence in discourse about properties and natural kinds in some venues of epistemology. I share Brian’s association to metaphor, and think of Hayden White’s pioneering “tropics of discourse” that preceded the new rhetoric of the human sciences by more than a decade. I’m glad that Brian elaborated a little on his sense of figuration vis-a-vis system. I would like to read more. I’ve noticed that Habermas too has a notable appreciation of figuration, and I would argue that his entire “pragmatics” has a non-ontological status kindred to that of other modes of discourse in the human sciences--but with the advantage of being integrated with the empirical, normative, and critical tradition of discourse more in accord with a philosophical appreciation of “structure” and “agency” than most any other rhetoric or rhetorician. “Even modern, largely decentered societies,” writes Habermas, in *The Normative Content of Modernity,* “maintain in their everyday communicative action a virtual center of self-understanding,..., as long as they do not outgrow the horizon of the lifeworld. This center is, of course, a projection, but it is an effective one. The polycentric projections of the totality--which anticipate, outdo, and incorporate one another--generate competing centers. Even collective identities dance back and forth in the flux of interpretations, and are actually more suited to the image of a fragile network than to that of a stable center of self-reflection” (359). “Rationalization of the lifeworld means differentiation and condensation at once--a thickening of the floating web of intersubjective threads that simultaneously holds together the ever more sharply differentiated components of culture, society, and person” (346). I heartily endorse Steve’s association of deconstruction of the image and Habermas’ sense of critique. Christopher Norris, among others, has heralded this association of deconstruction and critical theory for many years, albeit in a more philosophical vein than most persons entertain Critical Theory (recently, e.g., _Against Relativism_, Blackwell, 1997). I share Antti’s reticence to endorse a sense of absense of appreciation of symbolic power in Habermas. After all, Habermas was advancing a sense of language as fundamentally “symbolic interaction” in the 1960s and has been emphasizing the “post-auratic” character of modern subjectivity (which presumes an appreciation of the auratic) more years than he has associated himself so strongly with Durkheim’s analysis of the Sacred (in vol. 2 of TCA, 1981). I wish that Antti would share more about “image-guided world disclosure.” Steve’s mention of deconstruction resonates with Antti in a fascinating way I want to read more of. But, yes, what *is* “deconstruction” for Steve--or, for that matter, for Antti? I’m optimistic “about the extent to which we can hope to lift the blinders,” contrary to Antti's lament, but it's a longview--more hope than expectation. Cheers, Gary --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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