File spoon-archives/habermas.archive/habermas_1998/habermas.9802, message 28


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 06:48:37 -0500
Subject: Re: HAB: Money, power, and ... images?



>> The fact is that Habermas's ideal speech situation--especially as suggested
>> in the second volume of  TCA, where he addresses the rationally vs.
>> empirically motivated distinction--perpetuates/encourages a dangerously
false
>> consciousness by denying the material/instinctual/power-based
situatedness of
>> ALL communicative action.


Gee I dunno but I think this is why he calls it *IDEAL*  Sorta like Marx's
distinction between alienated labor and non-alienated labor.  Never has and
never will be any such thing as non alienated labor in class society, but
that doesn't mean that it cannot be imagined.
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Okay, so how did you feel about the above statement I just typed at
you--those of you out in cyberspace?  How did my rather unconventional post
to the Hab list make you feel?  What was your reaction?  My sincerest wish
is that you're thoroughly peeved with me and my violation of the implicit
rules of civil discourse on the Hab list.

I let that sink in just a bit.

More anon

Kelley




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