Subject: HAB: RE: Re: intersubjective constitution of identity and communicativ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:25:17 -0600 Bryce - Thanks very much for your post & for making me think more carefully about what I think I want to say. On the one hand I agree entirely that communicative action and the intersubjective constitution of identity are mutually implicative, as you so nicely put it. By implying that they might not have this relation, it is clear that I did not choose my words (or organize my thoughts) as carefully as would be desired. At the same time, I think that the distinction can be maintained and in the following way. While it is true that adopting a communicative attitude is the "fundamental prerequisite" for the development of a sense of self, I think that it is also pretty much accepted that humans are born with neither the ability to engage in communicative action (in Habermas's sense) nor with a sense of self - at least, not with the sense of self necessary for being a social or moral agent. Of course, infants are not blank slates, or autistic creatures a la Freud. The social abilities of neonates have been well documented. But before they can engage in communicative action in Habermas's sense (engaging in reciprocal role taking, using propositionally differentiated speech, etc.) certain processes of cognitive and emotional development must first take place. The context in which this development should take place (but does not always) is communicative. And while it is only through engaging in communicative relations that these developmental processes take place, these processes must first be undergone before an individual becomes the self (agent capable of speech and action) that engages (fully) in action oriented toward reaching understanding. Maybe what would help is to distinguish between communicative action 'strictly speaking' (action oriented toward reaching understanding, what Habermas is mostly concerned with) and the kind of communicative interaction that takes place between an infant or small child and its reference persons (interaction that is marked by important asymmetries in power and competence, and which cannot be constituted through propositionally differentiated speech). Even though the reference persons are (or ought to be) actors capable of speech and action, the infant or small child is not (yet). So the interaction taking place between them contains important asymmetries and limits that cannot be true of communicative action (strictly speaking). So what I imagine is that the process of identity formation that the young one is undergoing is not taking place through communicative action (strictly speaking), since the young one is not yet capable of it. But it is nonetheless a thoroughly intersubjective and communicative process, and one that is firmly rooted in communicative action (strictly speaking) because (presumably) the child's reference persons are able to be responsible caretakers precisely (or at least in part because) of their ability to engage in communicative action (strictly speaking). When you write that "the adoption of a communicative attitude is the fundamental prerequisite for the development of a sense of self", I cannot but agree. But I think we must be more specific about what is meant by a "communicative attitude". It is certainly true that some kind of a communicative attitude is necessary for any infant and child development to take place - some kind of readiness to engage in communicative interaction (limited in certain ways). Maybe we could even call it a readiness to adopt the performative orientation (I'm not sure). Again, such an orientation will indeed be a fundamental prerequisite for the development of a sense of self (for any development at all, other than physical maturation). But that orientation is not the same thing as communicative action (strictly speaking). Communicative action (strictly speaking) would indeed seem to be a fundamental prerequisite for the development of a personal identity - but as a feature of the environment into which the infant is born. The infant's or child's reference persons must themselves possess the capacity for communicative action (strictly speaking) if the young one is to be able to develop them him- or herself. So by the intersubjective constitution of identity, I mean the developmental process that takes place when an infant or child engages (over time) in asymmetrical relations of reciprocity and communicative interaction (limited in certain ways) with primary (and later secondary) reference persons who are agents capable of speech and action. This process ought to terminate once the developing individual reaches a certain stage of maturity (becomes an actor capable of speech and action). Once a person has reached the necessary level of cognitive and emotional development, of course, then it does indeed make sense to talk about communicative action (strictly speaking) as being coterminous with the maintenance of an individual identity. Does that make sense to you? --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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