File spoon-archives/habermas.archive/habermas_1998/habermas.9803, message 28


Subject: HAB: Re: RE: Re: intersubjective constitution of identity and communicativ e interaction
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:49:40 -0500


Charles et al. 

For the sake of argument and with some loose ends!! consider a couple of
thoughts

What about gestures a la Mead's account of the origins of symbolic
interaction. Doesn't the child (even the young infant) respond to gestures.
Though the child may not be a Habermasian subject in the strict sense
doesn't he or she recognize, even if only vaguely that these are gestures
are meaningful. Hen there is already a communicative relation between self
and other.Don't gestures already indicate a "communicative intent" (or
something like that). 

2) would it make any sense to look at the way that the "social Freudians"
such as Melanie Klein and her followers, look at the issue of the child's
early relations with the (as you so delicately put it with regard to
political correctness) "caretaker". They take a rather different view than
Freud did regarding the emergence of moral sense and relations to others.
IT seems to have some bearing on the question oft emergence of the child's
sense of others.

Brian Caterino






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