Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 21:35:37 +0200 Subject: Re: HAB: Knowledge and Human Interest. In a message dated 9/28/98 rouge-AT-post9.tele.dk writes: "Whar I find most disturbing is that the analyses of the society has shifted from a critical theory of society to a theory which more or less tries to legitimize the existing societies." I agree with Fred Welfare's ( Blue862-AT-aol.com Wed, 30 Sept 1998 ) arguments. I believe that Habermas' arguments about legitimity are even of high importance for a critical theory of existing societies. Socialism, Democracy and workers movement in Europe as well as populism in the US have lived from the remindering of pre-industrialist ways of live. European workers movement were based on the tradition of artisanal work and tried to take serious the classical humanist culture of the bourgeoisie. US populism was based on a pre-industrial vision of democracy ( Jeffersonianism ) or the ethics of Christianism. It is not capitalism which has disappeared. The remembering of those pre-capitalist ways of live and cultures have disappeared. Capitalism has destroyed most of these traditions. There is much pessimism in the work of Adorno. I believe that Habermas just shows us with the dialectics of rationalization of "Systemwelt" and "Lebenswelt", that modernity itself can produce new visions of justice and solidarity. Habermas' "Ideale Sprechsituation" and his newer ideas on Legitimation are the heirs of the democratic and socialist utopias. That's it. Habermas these days has just brought out a new book with different articles dealing with the issue of multiculturalism and the national state in Europe. It is called "Die postnationale Konstellation. Politische Essays" ( edition suhrkamp. Frankfurt a. Main 1998 ISBN 3-518-12095-6. ). Ueli G=E4hler, Basel / Switzerland --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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