Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:39:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: HAB: Re: formal pragmatics (M) What I am trying to work up, is .... a development of Habermas's communicative rationality more deeply within genetic structures - more explicit than universal species' competences - in a manner analogous to contemporary theories of virtue (Ridley/Cziko). (G) Then, you would be interested in trying to give a realist foundation ("Habermas's Theory of Communicative Rationality from an Internal Realist Point of View," _The Linguistic Turn in Hermeneutic Philosophy_, Cristina Lafont, MIT Press 1999, pp. 283-361) to transcendental argumentation (_Transcendental Arguments: problems and prospects_, Robert Stern, ed., Oxford 1999, esp. chs. 13 and 14 on "content externalism", which includes discussion of Searle's subjective realist sense of "the construction of social reality"). (M) What I am after from better Habermas brains than my own is some sort of appraisal of such an approach i.e is this 'genetic' rationality & morality implied/implicit/left unsaid in Habermas because it is taken for granted that this is what species competences refers to etc (G) Most subscribers to this list (it seems to me) read Habermas as a socio-political theorist, rather than as, so to speak, a philosopher of evolution---even though Habermas's approach to social evolution (in TCA) anticipates real progress in cognitive anthropological research, by couching its formulations in terms of our biological and primate-ive form of life. It seems to me that Habermas is being prospective in TCA, rather than ontologically committed, in the spirit of his approach to reconstructive science first formulated in _Communication & the Evolution of Society_ (where, somewhere there, I recall, he characterizes his work as an open-ended, fallibilistic research program, which TCA continues, rather than founds). In the late 1970s, he was concerned that social theorists didn't appreciate what he had been trying to begin to do, in the 1970s, and he wanted to formulate his research program comprehensively for social theory (and advance it further, as well--which the book does as largely an exercise in critical hermeneutical reading or discursive interchange with key Others), rather than give his theory of communicative action philosophical foundations, beyond what he did in 1975 or so with "What is [Formal] Pragmatics?". Though the kind of direction you seem to want to take could be very fruitful, I believe, it is not likely to be attractive to "Habermasians" who largely (I suppose) find "genetic" argumentation naturalistic and psychologistic, if not metaphysicalist. In other words, an (M)"appraisal of such an approach" puts a great burden on you to make sense of things without prejudicing your reader against your basic intentions. You're taking on a discursive burden, relative to Habermas readers, that is quite large. (M) I am intending to stick with the TCA, where the foundation for Habermas's later discursive ethics program is strongly put in place. (G) What about "Discourse Ethics: Notes on a Program of Philosophical Justification," _Moral Consciousness & Communicative Action_, MIT Press 1990 (German: 1983)? (M) I guess I want to go back to the TCA and examine the origins of the later work. (G) But Habermas was, there, very much in the middle of his career. Habermas' "origins" are dispersed through his career, not set in TCA. (M) investigating at this early stage, I may be able to develop an approach to the later work. (G) This mid-point. And surely you will be able to develop "an approach," but will it contribute to the Project of reconstructive science, in Habermas' collaborative sense of this; or will it reproduce the thinking of naturalistic tradition? The question is really open. I'm not prejudging (for I happen to be very sympathetic with what I perceive you to be endeavoring to do). Best regards Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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