Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:01:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary D <gedavis1-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: HAB: Re: Habermas on immigrants/foreign workers GENERALLY


Gee, John, what a "server" you are!

It would be interesting--for those who have time--to compare the
worker immigration issue in Germany to a leading worker immigration
issue in the U.S., regarding high-tech industry's difficulty
satisfying their high-skilled labor needs through the domestic labor
market, which has caused political disputes in the US between labor
and business over the justifiability of a significantly increased
availability of short-term worker immigrant visas. In my region, near
Silicon Valley, there is no ethnic dimension to the issue; it's
purely a matter of domestic resource demand, which is ultimately a
matter of education system political economics (yet also a matter of
wage costs in a global labor market). This is very different from the
MexAmerican border problem--which seems somewhat analogous to the
Turkish-German issue (but without nationalist overtones, since the
southwest US is already very hispanic). 

Altogether, a social-evolutionary theme in globalization of
localities may be apparent: from etnic nationalism (German-Turkish)
through low economism or economic nationalism (German-Turkish and
MexAmerican) to high economism or economic globalism (Silicon US--and
German what?).

Relative to Habermas, I would ask (if I pursued the John's
citations): How do Habermas' views improve our appreciation of the
globality of political economic dispute?


Gary


--- John Peterson <jvpeters-AT-midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> Hi--In English, there's "The Asylum Debate," in _The Past as
> Future_.
> Also, I notice index references to "asylum, right of" and
> "immigration"
> in_A Berlin Republic_.  "Citizenship and National Identity" has a
> section
> on asylum and is appended to _Between Facts and Norms_ (whose index
> has
> other references to "Immigration" too).  Then, "Struggles for
> Recognition
> in the Democratic Constitutional State" also has a section on
> asylum; it's
> included in _The Inclusion of the Other_ (whose title indicates the
> issue's
> philosophical importance for him, and whose index also has entries
> on
> "Immigration" and "Political Asylum").  --Vic
> 
> At 02:34 PM 11/5/00 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi;
> >Can anybody tell me whether Habermas ever wrote anything about the
> problems 
> >of the foreigners in Germany especially the problems of Turkish
> workers?
> >Thanks
> >
> >
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