From: <kenneth.mackendrick-AT-utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: HAB: Nonconscious vs. Unconscious Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:08:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:33:45 -0800 (PST) Gary D <gedavis1-AT-yahoo.com> wrote: > --- kenneth.mackendrick-AT-utoronto.ca wrote (re: Balancing practicality > and self formativity, 12 Jan): > > ...what if repression far from simply blocking the verbalization of > conscious discourse... > G: As distinguished from *unconscious* discourse? Of course not; there's no such thing. So, you must mean consciousness (since discourse is a highly derived construction, far from mere verbalization of anything) One of Lacan's famous phrases is this: "the unconscious is structured like a langauge." This seems to express the idea that the unconscious is language, which could not be further from the truth. The unconscious can only be apprehended in language - discourse - but this is not identical with the unconscious. For Lacan, bringing the unconscious into speech is a painful process whereby part of the unconscious is torn into language, it is a distortion from the beginning (since the unconscious isn't language). This, in fact, changes the unconscious, of which we know so little. We might best say that "it" remembers (the repression)... but we are by no means in a position to say what "it" is - let alone claim that "it" is dissolved or reversed. > K:...[repression] is also [consciousness's] indispensable precondition? > G: Respectfully, I say this is nonsense. (And it's a domesticated version of your earlier claim to me that *trauma* is unavoidable, which I associated with infant abuse, not an essential aspect of the psyche). Ok, I'm going to stop using the word "trauma" and remain consistent with Lacan's terms: jouissance. I subsituted trauma to illustrate a point and now it has made things unclear. The idea of repression being the condition of consciousness has to do with the way in which we acquire language. Without going into a summary of Lacan's mirror phase (the imaginary identification with a fiction) - basically Lacan's thesis is this: when we learn a language it is imposed on us by the Other. It is, literally, foreign to us. Even if we possess a genetic predisposition to learning language, this is not coordinated through a specific language. Language, then, imprints or carves itself on our psyche. This forces "something" out so that language can take "its" place. Something (jouissance) must be repressed in order for us to "learn" anything. Hegel's understanding of experience is no different: we have a 'new' experience whenever an 'old' experience is negated, contradicted. Repression, in other words, is the condition of learning. We can't keep everything in our heads all at once. In truth, I was actually surprised when you called this nonsense, since I had thought it obvious... (although I'm glad that you aren't mincing your words here). > K: > This would render any kind of "undistorted speech situation" a > conceptual impossibility.... > G: In fact though, an undistorted situation is *quite* conceivable (in a phrase: enough openness during enough time) ; you must mean practical impossibility or unrealizable possibility. But this is invalid, since the definition of undistorted speech implies a condition that is, in principle, quite *practically* accessible (given education and experience): analytic *skills* to question at all relevant levels that concern a person, *opportunity* to question and work through to understanding with local others, *openness* to radically different views (that are credible); and so on (in accord with JH's formal definition, which could be re-posted). As far as I can tell, Habermas's positing of undistorted speech is little different from the status of Kant's postulations. Kant postulates the immortality of the soul as a result of our practical reasoning. As has been analyzed by Alenka Zupancic (Ethics of the Real), Kant's postulation is a fantasy structure - most transcendental schemas are. Undistorted speech has the precise status of being the fantasy of a democratizing and pragmatic approach to language. Habermas's claim, however, is stronger than Kant's. Habermas draws on the presupposition of undistorted speech as a normative ground. Here I think it is helpful to read Hegel's logic of essence as a theory of ideology (see Zizek, Tarrying with the Negative). As is well known, Habemas argues that modernity cannot and will not borrow its normativity from another age: "it has to create its normativity out of itself" (PDM). This is a vicious circle in and of itself. But Habermas's claim is not merely tautological: his argument takes the position that modernity has to constitute itself litearlly by presupposing itself in its exteriority, in its external conditions in earlier periods. The return to external conditions must coincide with the return of the foundation, to this very normativity itself. The external relation of presupposing ground is surpassed by means of which normativity presupposes itself. This tautological gesture is empty in the precise sense that it does not contribute anything new - the normativity in quesiton is already present in its conditions. The normativity of the modern age 'discovers itself' as already present in tradition. The only way in which to adequately deal with this paradox is to invoke a transcendental synthesis which changes this 'essence' into an object of experience (this is Habermas's pragmatism). The 'transcendence within' which is felt on the level of practical reasoning is the result of the subject's spontaneous synthetic activity: the establishment of the absolute (which is why Habermas then moves into his argument about performative contradictions). Here, we have a ontic background of a 'not-yet' to an 'always already.' The idea of communicative freedom, then, realizes itself through a series of failures, every particular attempt to realize it may fail - freedom remains an empty possibility, bt the very continuous striving of freedom to realize itself bears witness to its 'actuality' (in the Hegelians sense). What is interesting about this logic here is that the the possibility of communicative freedom exerts actual effects, which disappear as soon as it actualizes itself ('approximated in discourse'). This short circuit between possibility and actuality. The actuality of communicative freedom arrives to us as a 'threat' - the more communicatively free we are, the more worried we become of not being communicatively free. The hegemonic, then, enters when possibility is manipulated into assuming an authoritative voice (fooled by the 'threat' of actuality). This is precisely what happens in Habermas's razor sharp distinction between the good and the just. The authoritative voice, demanding consensus, imprints itself on the discourse itself. This matrix leads to a strange dialectic: that some 'transgressions' of communicative freedom become permissable if 'communicative freedom' is to be preserved (ie. the church condones 'small infringements if they stablized the marriage). To say this in Lacanian terms: universal communicative inclusion becomes a fetish, a substitution for 'the real thing' - which is, by necessity, exclusive (what is excluded is the universal which now appears as the particular - student movements, women's movements, environmental movements... and so on)... 'nuff said (for now), ken --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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