File spoon-archives/habermas.archive/habermas_2001/habermas.0101, message 37

Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:37:39 -0800
Subject: Re: HAB: Brave New Conditionality

I'm jeanne.  And I've been lurking over the HAB list for the last week or 
so, wanting very much to participate, but very much aware of the need to 
get two new courses together before school starts. But when mattP. 
mentioned that his was a critical sociology approach, I had to gather my 
courage and introduce myself. I'm a sociologist, with a specific interest 
in critical theory.  And I presently belong to the academy. My hesitation 
to speak until now was based on my not being a philosopher.

My primary interest is in teaching non-traditional  (meaning wide age 
range, poor, and people of color) undergraduate students to participate in 
scholarly discourse such as I've been reading on the HAB list.

I knew I had to write when I read Ken's response to matt this morning:

         "Ken [playfully I hope] accuses me of plagiarism."

         "Did not! If that had been the case I surely would have invoked 
         arguments without mention of Zizek.  ; )"

I had just put up a file on Augustine on Friday, had a Zizek reader sitting 
here at my computer to put up a short piece on that, and had been 
discussing Habermas and the Other with a Susan and Mac on e-mail.  Much of 
this is captured on our site, where we've been recording and trying to 
teach academic discourse. Please, Ken and matt, may I include your last 
exchange on that site, so that our students can see the patterns they are 
following as similar to yours?  Right down to the emoticons! And how 
exciting it would be for them, as it was for me, to see that we sometimes 
even talk about the same people and issues, albeit at a more concrete and 
less sophisticated level.

As soon as I finish the syllabi and the site materials, I hope I'll find 
enough time to follow the debates more closely. Meanwhile, thanks for the 

Jeanne Curran, Ph.D., Esq.
Professor of Sociology
California State University, Dominguez Hills
Member, California State Bar

At 09:13 AM 1/13/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:13:26  matthew piscioneri <>
> > Ken [playfully I hope] accuses me of plagiarism.
>Did not! If that had been the case I surely would have invoked Augustine's
>arguments without mention of Zizek.  ; )
>      --- from list ---


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