From: "Raul A. Rodriguez" <rarodriguez-AT-unvm.edu.ar>
Subject: Re: HAB: Re: September 11 and the demise of the Habermasian project
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:05:50 -0300


Please, we cannot speak from the political theory of the "terrorism" ace to
wrong in itself. We should analyze it in their causes, their political
orientation, their social historical context and their character of social
discursivity. When the theory uses it to hide interest or previously taken
positions it you complete an ideological function. In the fight against the
Nazis in Europe the Resistance also does use the terrorism, did the Jews
arrived in Palestine in their fight against the Englishmen also it uses the
terrorism or is it that we have "whitened" the term for such facts? I don't
justify moral neither politically that happened in NY but it is also absurd
that we speak well of the "war between the wrong and the good".

Por favor, no podemos hablar desde la teoría política del "terrorismo" como
un mal en sí mismo. Debemos analizarlo en sus causas, su orientación
política, su contexto histórico social y su carácter de discursividad
social. Cuando la teoría la usamos para encubrir interés o posiciones
previamente tomadas cumple una función ideológica. En la lucha contra los
nazis en Europa la resistencia también uso el terrorismo, los judíos
llegados a Palestina en su lucha contra los ingleses también usaron el
terrorismo o es que hemos blanqueado el término para tales hechos? No
justifico moral ni políticamente lo sucedido en NY pero también es absurdo
que hablemos de la guerra entre el bien y el mal.


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Subject: Re: HAB: Re: September 11 and the demise of the Habermasian project


> In a message dated 9/17/2001 3:08:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dgolash-AT-american.edu writes:
>
> > Why does the USA not press Israel to
> >  fulfill UN requirements as it presses Iran?  Why do we not see Israel's
> >  selective assassinations as acts of terrorism by the state?
>
> They were in 2000 when Clinton pressed Isreal to give concessions to the
PLO
> who rejected the offers.  I think that critical journalists have made us
> aware of how mainstream media has cast the Isrealis and the PLO
differently
> in terms of assassinations.  But, as for terrorist acts contrasted to
> assassinations, don't you think that the targets are somewhat different
also.
>
> >This is not a confrontation between
> >Democracy-Liberty and the ??? of the fundamentalists.  Neither is it a
> >psychiatric problem (acts committed by crazy people).
>
> Yes to both.  It is a confrontation with democracy and it is also a
> psychiatric problem.  Terrorism is hate which is a therapeutic issue.  Do
you
> think that by making these claims, we are going to swallow them??
>
> Fwelfare
>
>
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