Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:48:04 -0800 Subject: Re: HAB: Adorno & Habermas At 01:12 PM 11/5/01 +0000, you wrote: >What's funny Ken is that after posting the initial message I thought about >material I have recently read, and wondered whether Habermas was >attempting to hold on to earlier Ardornoesque motifs more vigorously than >Adorno ended up doing in _Negative Dialectics_. I.E more Adorno than Adorno ;-) I don't think so. I thought that for a long time... it seemed as though Habermas was articulating a 'communicative negative dialectics' - but I've changed my mind about this. I'm not convinced that Habermas has read a great deal of Adorno's work. >I will attempt to be more precise next reply except to say that Adorno's >critical/emancipatory *escape route* via aesthetics is put to one side by >Habermas who *continues* to insist on the *emancipatory* potential of a >dialectic rooted in communicative practices (or something like that). There is a parallel between the general shape of Adorno and Habermas... in the sense that both adhere to a speculative ideal. In the case of Adorno, an emphatic ideal of human freedom. With Habermas, undistorted communication. On the surface, there is an analogy here, but it breaks down pretty quickly. As far back as 1963 Habermas argues that utopian ideas must be ground scientifically. Adorno does not trust science to do this. >How are you characterizing the Adorno/Habermas relationship? Confusing. When Habermas compares negative dialectics to a military drill, I can't help but think he's missed the point. I'm find myself less interested in thinking about Habermas's relationship to Adorno... because I think Habermas's interpretation of Adorno is one-dimensional, painfully so. The fact that his critique has been so influential is almost mystifying... which isn't to say that he doesn't have good reasons in support of his claims. What I find more interesting is the way in which sympathetic critics of Habermas are looking at the internal connection between morality, ethics and narrative expressions. Aesthetics plays a huge role in the way in which we construct, reconstruct and deconstruct our identities. We appropriate narratives, sometimes through the stories of others, to learn about ourselves (I find Jay Bernstein compelling on this point, Recovering Ethical Life). Maria Pia Lara's book Moral Textures: Feminist Narratives in the Public Sphere is an extraordinary theorization of this. In effect, narrative is a moral imperative. This prompts a rethinking of the relation between morality and aesthetics and, following Wellmer, Lara argues for an expanded understanding of communicative rationality through the way in which narratives inform and expand on universal moral claims in a revolutionary way. Narratives, thus, transform the moral domain. Justice is still given a certain priority, but a sense of justice that is informed by the experience and substance of injustice. A simple way of expressing this would be to say that ethics, aesthetics and morality are dialectical. Without doing away with discourses of justification, thus putting Habermas on the same side as someone like Rorty, discourses of justification can be viewed in a more comprehensive context... one which is informed by a struggle for recognition within justificatory discourse. How we account for this philosophically is still unclear (at least for me) but I think it is a good start, and certainly provides a link between those sympathetic to Adorno yet working within the Habermasian field. ken ken --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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