Subject: Re: HAB: liberal eugenics Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:05:58 Bob, thanks for the indulgence :-) >...I >don't see where this intersects with Power in such a way as to offer any >hope?...what does it have to offer those of us whose interest is not >scholarship? As someone who is interested in - but still an apprentice of - scholarship I will have to ruminate upon these themes. I don't think it pays to either overestimate or underestimate the contribution the social sciences make to the ongoing *regulation* of the sorts of social systems Habermas mainly talks of. There are intersections with Power, but not in such a way as to offer too much hope, alas (?). The pathos of Hope is a fairly dangerous player in the dynamics of ideology-production and ideology-maintenance and social control anyway. It's the dilemma of critical social theory production clearly outlined by Horkheimer and Adorno in their _DoE_: good i.e. effective critical social theories intersect with Power and consolidate the over arching social structures against which the critical theory was first set out to confront etc. Thus a sort of damned if you do/ damned if you don't dilemma unless quietism or negative dialectics or liberating mimesis or JH's endless discourse models appeal. There always is an intersection with Power...it's almost re-assuring! Cheers, MattP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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