Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:11:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: HAB: Post-Secular Humanity (part 3 of 4?) I know that analytical reading is not very appropriate with a translation of a lecture designed for a general audience of listeners. As someone familiar with JH's work, I want to see some discursive thread furthered, but don't--and so what. But a some critical points seem pertinent to me, in the face of JH's very agreeable presentation that is largely meant to recall long-standing "Frankfurt" themes in a spirit of religious inclusion. It was interesting news to me that "the word 'secularization' has a juridical meaning that refers to the forcible appropriation of church property by the secular state" (10), but JH gives more weight to this than seems warrented (according to various contexts of discussion of secularization in _Encyclopedia Britannica_--searchable online-amazing!), since it was Germanic *Protestant* interests that apparently motivated appropriation of specifically *Catholic* properties; that is, the expropriation was internal to the evolution (cultural differentiation) of religious economics *in* German modernization, not a mark of the secular state as such vis-a-vis religion. In fact, the religio-economic expropriative meaning of 'secularization' seems socially marginal to the large-scale *cultural* incorporation of Christian-Renaissance humanism (and its sense of individual entitlement) contemporaneous with post-Medieval mercantilism. In short, it is not an *expropriative* meaning of 'secularization' that has notable historical causality that "has since been extended to the emergence of cultural and societal modernism in general" (10). JH is making 'secularization' do too much heavy lifting for the spirit of hegemony which he wishes to connote. Rather, it was the emergence of cultural and societal modernism that is the backdrop of the exploitation of secularization within the evolution of northwest European religious economies-perdurance of feudalism within modernization. Accordingly, "the word 'secularization' has been associated with both of these opposed judgments" (10), but a counterposition of "taming" and "unlawfulness" conveniently suppresses the primacy of constructive modernization that generally prevailed over distorted miscarriages of authority. JH's counterposing patronizes religious alienation with a story that occludes a basis for re-owning the cultural *evolutionary* character of constructive historicality that belongs to both European religious culture and liberal political culture. From my vantage point, on the west coast of the western reaches of The West, JH voices a Eurocentric guilt burdened by the German legacy of hegemony (It was in northwestern, Germanic regions of Europe that the expropriations largely took place, in the 16th century). Indeed, "both interpretations [presented by JH] make the same mistake" (12), but not, I think, so much because "[t]hey both consider secularization as a kind of zero-sum game…" (12); rather, because they both occlude the largely progressive nature of modernization within both religion and politics. It's an anthropological mistake to conceive modernization primarily in terms of "the productive powers of science and technology harnessed by capitalism and… the tenacious powers of religion and the church" (12). Indeed, "[t]his image" not only "no longer fits a post-secular society" (12), but doesn't fit the cultural-psychological-economic- political (anthropological) modernization that was itself the basis for "posit[ing of] the continued existence of religious communities within a continually secularizing society" (12) that JH now associates with *post*-secularity. JH might apply to his own discussion that: "And most of all, this too-narrow view overlooks the civilizing role of democratically enlightened common sense, which proceeds along its own track as an equal third partner amid the murmurs of cultural conflict between science and religion" (12) within modernization. In other words, JH's *critical* point about what's too narrow applies to the set-up of his own critical point. It appears, then, that JH is mapping a misunderstanding of modernization (on the part of religion) back into a misreading of secularization that patronizes (1) religious alienation and (2) the hegemonical reading of modernization (overbearing reading of overbearing threads of history?). Nonetheless, JH's main point is well-taken, re: "reflective thrusts" that "run[ their] course through the public spaces of democracy" (13). My general critical interest toward JH is fundamentally in accord with his own thinking; but I find opportunistic appropriations of dialectical rhetoric (in this case) or sociocentric rhetoric (in other cases) in views by him that could benefit from a better application of his own originality (which is post-dialectical and 3-fold / multi-centric) to contemporary issues, especially in light of developments (recalling his "liberal eugenics" essay) that complement his communicative interest in the potentials of human life (complementarities that counter the genophobic strain in his current views, that too readily revert to sociocentrism). [to be continued, probably just one more posting] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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