Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:38:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: HAB: Free speech includes freedom to close the door



--- Ralph Dumain <rdumain-AT-igc.org> wrote ("Re: HAB: Why has
Islam failed to modernize?," 0203.32)

> I've silently endured a lot of trifling hot air since
> subscribing to this list, ...

Why would you do that, rather than starting a constructive
thread? Thoughtful participation is welcomed.

>...but this fascist drivel takes the cake.  What is
> this jackass doing here?  

To whom are you referring by "here"? It's an unmoderated
communication "community".  (The distinction between
ingenuine and genuine is sometimes demonstrated.) But, if
you call others jackasses, you make your name stand for a
lack of credibility (and, for my part, you'll be filtered
out and ignored, if you think your own rude annoyance
toward others is a good reason for being read. I'm not
annoyed by those who are annoyed; I just tune them out). 

Listserv ethocs is only as good as participant abilities to
make meaning. Ignoring persons you don't like is good
practice. Making better meaning is good practice. 

>Habermas may be basically a liberal, but ...  If one
rejects this, why
> engage with Habermas at all?   

Good question. Care to make a compelling example for
focusing on JH's work? 

Don't over interpret the freedom of others to speak without
complaint; the silence of other subscribers is not
necessarily consent. For example, I don't even receive any
of Mr. Sheetz's postings (thanks to email filters). And I
delete all responses to hm, too, as soon as it's clear that
it's a response to him. Free speech includes freedom to
close the door. 

>The freedom from feudalism, and later
> from fascism and 
> Stalinism, implies inter alia a liberation from
> irrational and illegitimate 
> authority.  Islam, like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism,
> and other 
> malignant religions, is a pox upon humanity, and every
> bit as imperialistic as the imperialist west,..

Gee, you sound like a fringe element, too (even though you
use 'inter alia'). Hope I'm wrong. 

Regards,

Gary



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