Subject: HAB: Re: Re: Left in division (does Habermas have a solution?)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:35:14 -0500


ken,
     think he means the old RC v Protestant moral theology distinction.
...formerly sin was a physical pollution to be dealt with mechanically by
cleansing ritual, baptism, confession,...with the Reformation it gets
subjectivized, a burden of anxiety over one's moral being
(OS, salvation) that can't be off-loaded... results in un-health, neuroses,
etc....kierkegardian-heideggerian type stuff.
clearly an innocence was lost here, no?


bob


----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth MacKendrick <kenneth.mackendrick-AT-utoronto.ca>
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Subject: HAB: Re: Left in division (does Habermas have a solution?)


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas McDonald <mcdonald928-AT-yahoo.com>
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> Subject: HAB: Left in division (does Habermas have a solution?)
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> > "Something was lost when sin became guilt."
> > -Jurgen Habermas
>
> Where can I find this quote? It is either remarkably out of context or
> Habermas has lost his mind. Sin describes a breakdown in human relations,
> and guilt is the experience of this breakdown and the awareness of
> responsibility for it. The idea that something gets lost implies that one
> shouldn't feel guilty when relationships break down, which would mean that
> one doesn't need to take responsibility for sin! This runs counter to
almost
> everything else Habermas has written.
>
> ken
>
>
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