Subject: HAB: Lifeworld Oppression Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:36:11 Gary, Thanks for your detailed response. Maybe I do see crisis everywhere: >But JH's discursive-methodological and conceptual >assumptions are not *constituted* by the kind of >waiting-for-crisis or searching-for-crisis (if not >fostering it) that you would internalize (apparently) as >*your* dynamic of reconstructive analysis, as if life has >no interest for you, unless a crisis is brewing. but I think at times Habermas's criticism of Parsons's "overly harmonious" rendering of subsystemic exchanges in TCA2 can be equally applied to his characterization of the Lifeworld. I guess where I wanted to head with my comments on your account of the dynamic relational processes in Habermas's Lifeworld was not so much to do with the accuracy of your recount but rather how unsatisfying aspects of Habermas's picturing of the Lifeworld is. In particular, his lack of recognition of let's say the ongoing subterranean conflicts which the settled structures of the Lifeworld mask. Thomas McCarthy's essay _Rationality and Relativism_ in the Thompson & Held anthology draws attention to Habermas's *ignoring* of ethnomethodological and socio-linguistic research. Aspects of these extensive researches indicate how oppression is ingrained in the background structures of the lifeworld to the extent that foreground interactions can usually proceed unproblematically, because - in a sense - everyone knows (or should know?) their place in the social hierachy. All sorts of visual, linguistic, and situational cues present (prep.) to social interactions manage the implicit hierachical and oppressive order of the Lifeworld. So what am I rambling on about? In Habermas, the Lifeworld is something of a sacred cow. Obstacles to the development of emancipatory consciousness are not always institutional and the Lifeworld (as I think Foucault more clearly grasps) is the repository of an insidious and permanent form of oppression/suppression. ________________________________________________________________ Regarding this: >You claim that "there is a dialectical core to Habermas's >mode of inquiry," but all of your examples are about the >*object* of inquiry, not JH's mode of inquiry... I find it useful to understand Habermas's mode of inquiry as realizing a dialectical logic. I also find it useful to describe his characterization of the logic of self-reflection which underpin the specifically modern methodologies of technological/practical/emancipatory reason as dialectical. I notice that similar themes were discussed in a thread between you and Ken last month. The term "dialectic" is anathematical to you in regards Habermas it appears so perhaps we had better move on. _____________________________________________________________ >If we were to look in detail at JH as critical reader, we >would see that "synthesizing strategies" misses the >prevailing character of his critical hermeneutic. If the prevailing character of Habermas's work was solely *hermeneutical* then sure forget/ignore its dialectical quality. But as you so rightly point out its a *critical* hermeneutic and without the promise or objective of a dialectical resolution (which for JH hinges on the modified and modest hopefulness of an *open ended futurity*) then engagement with social theory production is some form of aesthetic/banal intellectual pursuit which abandons the emancipatory task of philosophy once and for all. ___________________________________________________________________ I agree with you here: >In >particular, one would see that he is not reading "in >opposition" to Horkheimer and Adorno As he makes clear in the introductory pages to TCA2, Weber, H&A, Lukacs are points of departure on which he constructs his critique of functionalist reason. For me one of Habermas's remarkable (and fairly brave) strategies (esp. in _BFN_) is - perhaps resignedly - to build (accept) the dialectic of enlightenment ("the dialectic of empowerment and tutelage") into his analysis of the topography of the social world in democratic advanced capitalist societies. __________________________________________________________________ >Look, Matt: *Our* lifeworld "lives" through the archive of >our history on this list. One can see that I don't take a >dialectical (postive/negative, subject-object, >oppositional-synthetic) stance toward your views. And >*that* archived practice is my "argument" for the >non-dialectical character of critical hermeneutics, as far >as my "rendition of the lifeworld" is. This is all very well Gary except for one thing: Your extensive knowledge of both Habermas and the philosophical tradition in which he locates himself is far too valuable a resource (for me at least) not to be conflictually exploited ;-) Thanks for the dialogue and the open mindedness with which it has been conducted! MattP _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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