Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:19:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: HAB: Lifeworld without masking (re: "Lifeworld Oppression," Matt, #78) M> ...I guess where I wanted to head with my comments on your account of the dynamic relational processes in Habermas's Lifeworld was...how unsatisfying aspects of Habermas's picturing of the Lifeworld is. In particular, his lack of recognition of let's say the ongoing subterranean conflicts which the settled structures of the Lifeworld mask. G: We must distinguish between describing something in principle and accounting for individual differences, just as an understanding of health is necessary for recognizing what's unhealthful (Largely human history has accepted unhealthful conditions as natural or unavoidable; recognition of what's wholly healthful gives perspective for critique of what's presummed natural or fateful). There is no lack of recognition of conflict in JH's accounts. He renders the lifeworld in a manner that critique would *recommend*, and he also does critique, based on the full metatheory of communicative action (lifeworld and system correlation). But critique presupposes an understanding that it recommends against unacceptable conditions. A healthful life is not defined by its risk of unhealthfulness. The risks exist despite an orientation toward health. Though a healthful life relates to risk prudently, knowledgeably, and effectively, the healthful life merely *includes* this; it isn't understood *primarily relative* to risks. Rather, a healthful life is understood in terms of the character of healthfulness and the practices of a healthful life. *Relative* to this, we can be clear about what treatment or prevention aims to actualize. M> Thomas McCarthy's essay _Rationality and Relativism_ in the Thompson & Held anthology draws attention to Habermas's *ignoring* of ethnomethodological and socio-linguistic research. Aspects of these extensive researches indicate how oppression is ingrained in the background structures of the lifeworld to the extent that foreground interactions can usually proceed unproblematically, because - in a sense - everyone knows (or should know?) their place in the social hierachy. G: Here, oppression is distinguishable from the background lifeworld that embodies it; and "ingrained" is an empirical issue (It's not engrained in many lives). One can't anticipate (or work toward) having a particular life without oppression unless one generally understands "the" lifeworld without that oppression. I (via JH's work) can *say* what a life without masking of conflict is, e.g., in terms of openness to reflective problem-solving and interactive "reflections" with others. M> All sorts of visual, linguistic, and situational cues present (prep.) to social interactions manage the implicit hierachical and oppressive order of the Lifeworld. G: Yet the phenomenology of oppression cannot provide a basis for understanding a post-oppressed life; a phenomenology of oppression *serves* emancipatory work toward a no-longer-oppressed life, only inasmuch as a non-oppressed life or post-oppressed life is understandable or understood. M> In Habermas, the Lifeworld is something of a sacred cow. G: NOT at all. It's a valuability that is partly defined by its openness to reflection and critique. Sacred cows are unquestionable. M> Obstacles to the development of emancipatory consciousness are not always institutional and the Lifeworld (as I think Foucault more clearly grasps) is the repository of an insidious and permanent form of oppression/suppression. G: Sometimes, but this is an empirical issue, not a matter of principle as to what the lifeworld is understood fundamentally to be. But the need for so-called emancipation is why there are social workers, clinicians, and educational specialists (relative to your point apart from from institutional obstalces, which involve political action). Evidently you don't believe that one can have a good sense of healthful life and also work with conflict--which may mean only that you want a good sense of healthful life, as we all do. Learning never ends. But again, this is another matter from focusing on the alleviation of oppression, which happens IN LIGHT of living otherwise, for those who would help others (once helped by unoppressed others, if oppression was once indemic). _______________________________ G>>You claim that "there is a dialectical core to Habermas's mode of inquiry," but all of your examples are about the *object* of inquiry, not JH's mode of inquiry... M> I find it useful to understand Habermas's mode of inquiry as realizing a dialectical logic. G: But "dialectical logic" appears to be basically a talisman for whatever seems critical to you; it's not informative of any dynamic beyond the difficulties of subject-centered reason (that lack a good intersubjective basis). M> I also find it useful to describe his characterization of the logic of self-reflection which underpin the specifically modern methodologies of technological/practical/emancipatory reason as dialectical. G: Well, that's unfortunate, since, again, the "logic" of self-reflection (as JH understands it) presumes an intersubjectivation that is lacking in dialectical rhetoric (which is constituted by "subject-centered reason"). ________________________________________________ G>> If we were to look in detail at JH as critical reader, we would see that "synthesizing strategies" misses the prevailing character of his critical hermeneutic. M> If the prevailing character of Habermas's work was solely *hermeneutical* then sure forget/ignore its dialectical quality.... G: "...it's dialectical quality" is your imposition here. The *critical* quality of his work can't be validly rendered with the rhetoric of the dialectical paradigm. M> ...But as you so rightly point out its a *critical* hermeneutic and without the promise or objective of a dialectical resolution (which for JH hinges on the modified and modest hopefulness of an *open ended futurity*) then engagement with social theory production is some form of aesthetic/banal intellectual pursuit which abandons the emancipatory task of philosophy once and for all. G: No, it's just that hermeneutical critique is post-dialectical critique. __________________________________________ M> For me one of Habermas's remarkable (and fairly brave) strategies (esp. in _BFN_) is - perhaps resignedly - to build (accept) the dialectic of enlightenment ("the dialectic of empowerment and tutelage") into his analysis of the topography of the social world in democratic advanced capitalist societies. G: Sure. The topography of the social world *includes* distortive / distorting dynamics, which were first approched through the dialectical paradigm. But, it turns out, the dialectical paradigm was a stage in the evolution of social life which provided no basis for understanding life without distortion or beyond distortion. The theory of communicative action provides such a basis. Regards, Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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