Subject: HAB: The Unknowable Lifeworld Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:31:50 Gary, A posting to acknowledge your response. Thanks for your explication of the issues I raised re-Lifeworld & oppression. In particular these points make sense: >G: Here, oppression is distinguishable from the background >lifeworld that embodies it; and "ingrained" is an empirical >issue (It's not engrained in many lives). One can't >anticipate (or work toward) having a particular life >without oppression unless one generally understands "the" >lifeworld without that oppression. I (via JH's work) can >*say* what a life without masking of conflict is, e.g., in >terms of openness to reflective problem-solving and >interactive "reflections" with others. __________________________________________________________ Changing tack Gary to a slightly less serious issue; I wonder how you would react to the following quibbling point over Habermas's depiction of his Lifeworld concept. Reading the following statement by Habermas I am given to recall a criticism of Herbert Spencer's postulation of the *Unknowable* by someone whom I can't recall who said of Spencer's *Unknowable* that if it's so *unknowable* how do you know that it is there? "Members of a social collective normally share a life-world. In communication, but also in processes of cognition, this only exists in the distinctive, pre-reflexive form of background assumptions, background receptivities or background relations. The life-world is that remarkable thing which dissolves and disappears before our eyes as soon as we try to take it up piece by piece. The life-world functions in relation to processes of communication as a resource for what goes into explicit expression. But the moment this background knowledge enters communicative expression, where it becomes explicit knowledge and thereby subject to criticism, it loses precisely those characteristics which life-world structures always have for those who belong to them: certainty, background character, impossibility of being gone behind." _A & S _, 1992: 109-10 If the life-world dissolves once it is thematized how can we possibly know it is there? Where is Habermas's version of Kant's transcendental deduction? best regards, MattP _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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