File spoon-archives/habermas.archive/habermas_2003/habermas.0301, message 23


Subject: Re: HAB: solidarity
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:27:47 -0500


Ralph Dumain writes:
> Matthew, Gary, and Shitz are the most useless individuals who have ever
> populated this list, both intellectually and politically.  The undertone
of
> the cynical sectarian thirdworldist mentality of Shitz is fascistic, and
>


dear superscrotum,
      beside consonance, is there anything to indicate my "cynical sectarian
thirdworldist...fascism"? ...indeed, what is cstf?  come on, ralphy, show us
there's more to you than faux cp jargon and playground abuse.

bob






----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Dumain <rdumain-AT-igc.org>
To: <habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: HAB: solidarity


> Matthew, Gary, and Shitz are the most useless individuals who have ever
> populated this list, both intellectually and politically.  The undertone
of
> the cynical sectarian thirdworldist mentality of Shitz is fascistic, and
> symptomatizes the utter uselessness of the entire left.  Gary is a
> delusional reactionary and Matthew is an utterly bewildered intellectual
> eunuch.  But Shitz is a crypto-fascist.  And what good does any of this do
> for Habermas, including the liberation of what's useful in Habermas from
> (1) the constraints of a dying liberalism, (2) irrationalist anti-modern
> intellectual guerilla warfare,  (3) institutionalized bourgeois
> intellectual life?
>
> Re house niggers, also apropos viz the recent remarks of Harry Belafonte:
> whether or not black Republicans are house niggers is an obsolete
> ideological issue.  From a psychological standpoint, Clarence Thomas
> probably is one, Colin Powell and Condoleeza probably aren't, but that
> issue is now obsolete and irrelevant.  Black conservatives are now in a
> position to be considered scum in their own right as they deserve, without
> having to be assumed to be subservient, although they are indeed racially
> exploited by their fascist masters.  The degeneration of the American
> ruling class to irrational barbarism is mirrored in the desperate
> exhaustion of the left, which itself is reduced to an irrationalist
> counterculture in the USA (as is most embarrassingly evident with Pacifica
> radio).
>
> While I agree that the impending assault on Iraq is the lowest form of
> fascist barbarism that the America government has ever conceived, I don't
> see much use in debating it here unless some real connection with the
> purpose of this list can be discerned.  The most obvious connection is
that
> the Bush administration, like Hitler's, is the utmost antithesis of
> communicative rationality.  It is rule by pure intimidation.  The
rationale
> behind it is so hollow nobody really believes in it.  It succeeds only
> because the American people have been so demoralized they are completely
numb.
>
> What do you Habermasians have to say about this?  Nothing.  You are
> completely useless.
>
> At 12:23 PM 1/20/2003 -0500, Archie Tektonix wrote:
> > > today, as empire, steered by a faction of deluded brain-trust'ers,
> > > chicken-hawks, zionists, house-niggers [snip]
> >
> >I've never had much use for the histrionics with which you pollute this
> >list and clog my inbox.  But this takes the cake.  If you were black,
> >you'd just be a simpleton for implying that a black republican must
> >automatically be a house nigger.  But as a white man (the only Scheetz
> >anyone in my community is familiar with are white and come accessorized
> >with pointed hoods), you've got some gall (a) to presume to know who is
> >'really' black, and (b) to use a word that can only sound ugly coming
from
> >your lips.  Please take your delusions elsewhere.
> >
> >
> >jay murray
>
>
>
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