Subject: Re: [HAB:] state and lifeworld [Matt] Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 03:14:40 +0000 Matt, 1) As John McCumber perceptively writes both Habermas and Foucault “construe freedom in terms of situations, and not subjects” (McCumber, Philosophy and freedom : Derrida, Rorty, Habermas, Foucault: 3). If this characterisation of their work is correct then the possibility of freedom and the project of freedom in large part dependa on the correct analysis of the situation (the present). 2) But the present should not be construed in narrow terms. I think Foucault’s insights about state are even not formulated clearly in the literature let alone developing them and critiquing them. I think Foucault’s insights about the state are very relevant to our present, the present which is constituted and sustained by, to a large extent, what Foucault calls capitalist state. 3) I am not sure about Habermas’ views about the state yet. One thing which is clear to me is that Habermas considers capitalism in a very narrow terms and largely limits it to capitalist economy and markets. But capitalism is more than that. It is not just economy. Capitalism is economy as well as polity. It is a system as well as lifeworld. It is in this sense that I say Habermas has a ‘negative’ conception of state. He sees state as a separate entity from the ‘civil society’ and in fact this separation as one of the great achievements of our modernity. For Foucault on the other hand modern state extends its roots through the creation of civil society. Thus civil society is not the other of the state but the medium through which it extends its powers beyond. But state in the context is not restricted to government or coercive or administrative institutions. It is rather a specific political rationality that forms the basis not only of soicatiotion but also of individuation. regards ali _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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