From: "matthew piscioneri" <mpiscioneri-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [HAB:] Lifeworld *telos* Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:57:20 +0000 Ralph, Habermas wrote: >>"Against this formalism she advances elements of an almost Weberian >>world-view: the (in the final analysis) decisionistic basis of value >>orientations; the fact that socio-cultural forms of life appear in the >>plural; and, finally, the indissolubly tragic substance of history. In my >>view neither the polytheism of beliefs nor the dialectic of progress >>elements which I am not at all tempted to deny can be correctly >>interpreted unless one resists the decisionism suggested by Nietzsche and >>played out by Weber in neo-Kantian terms, and by Sartre in existentialist >>terms." (1983: 226) >Translate into English, please? Habermas is rejecting the thrust of Heller's critique which is that he has overlooked the sensuous, feeling component of humankind's species-being. Heller at one point in her essay writes that Habermasian man has no feelings or agonistic sensibilities. Clearly, she wants to hold onto a compassionate ethic of care as the basis for undertaking a critical theory of society in contrast to Habermas's proceduralist quasi-technocratic approach that emphasizes the head and loses the heart :-). Another telling critique Heller levels against JH is that his critical theory lacks a *particular addressee8. Habermas argues that a critical theory of society doesn't make sense from a subjectivist perspective (methodological individualism), and in a trivial sense he is right. A theory of *society* should start with the social (one would expect) although Habermas emphasizes the intersubjective over the subjective or the collective. This following statement puzzles me, however, and I won't pretend to fully understand (other contributions welcome): >>In my view neither the polytheism of beliefs nor the dialectic of progress >> elements which I am not at all tempted to deny can be correctly >>interpreted... My *guess* is [1] that Habermas is insisting on a hermeneutical distinction between participating/performative stance v. a theoretical/objectifying perspective on the world. It is why he turns to a social systems theoretic in _TCA_ in an attempt to *get outside* the interpretive limitations of the hegelian dialectic and the polytheistic relativism Weber pessimistically settles on, for example. [2] One of Habermas's *masterstrokes* is his argument that communicative reason makes socio-philosophical discourse possible in the first place. The raising and testing of validity claims, according to JH, is the basis of the (social) scientific logic of inquiry. So JH is arguing that communicative reason makes Heller's discourse possible BOTH historically and particularly) prior to her substantive discussion. Sorry I can't make it clearer! ------------------ >>In other words, Habermas is committed to the awkward position that >>participants in discourse always/already make a normative commitment to >>communicative reason, quite literally, each time they speak. > >And who could believe such a thing? Yes. Although it is worth understanding Habermas's sense of *normative*. I don't have Honneth&Joas's -Communicative Action- with me. In his reply at the end of this anthology JH explains what his sense of *normative* is, and it is a deflationary/modest sense. Whilst *I* take *normative* to suggest some sort of ethical commitment, Habermas - if I remember correctly - restricts his sense of normative to a rule-following behaviour in the Wittgensteinian sense; i.e. language-in-practice is a rule governed behaviour. Habermas's sense of normative commitment then appears to be that when we speak we are engaging with something that is always/already a rule governed (normative) activity. IMO, Habermas then extends Wittgenstein's insights and identifies a host of idealizations and presuppositions *naturally* embedded in communicative language practice. -------------------- >>On this issue, Habermas appears to be committed to an immanent lifeworld >>*telos* or *redemptive bearing* that seeks the restoration of its >>communicatively rational “inner nature.” > >English translation, please? This returns to Heller's critique of Habermas's sidestepping of the motivational issue in his reconstruction of Critical Theory. Habermas argues that participants in discourse (in this case, critical social theory) are always/already committed to communicative reason. Heller presses the point however and asks on what basis would a flesh and blood social actor (e.g. you or I) take part - given Habermas's understanding of the critical-emancipatory project - to correct or undeform the processes of deformation that have afflicted the communicatively constituted rational structures of the lifeworld, at the hands of a functionalist reason gone wild in advanced modernity. In plain language, Heller wants to know why does Habermas think we would try to make things better!!! I agree with Heller that Habermas has overlooked theorizing the motivational bases for re-engagement in processes of theoretical and practical enlightenment, especially following the debilitating critique of instrumental reason developed by Horkheimer and Adorno - which, according to Habermas, *interrupted* the task of undertaking a critical theory of society (see _TCA_ 1.386, Polity Press, 1995). This is why I have suggested that Habermas appears to be committed to some sort of teleological or immanent redemptive bearing within the lifeworld, or perhaps communicative reason's *interest in itself* in order to explain how communicative reason might redress the deformation generated by functionalist reason etc. Sorry for raving here, but these types of issues pretty much sum up my thesis. One conjecture I put forward is that Habermas relies on the institutional completion of the critical-emancipatory project in the higher education system and public administration to redress the social pathologies of modernity caused by the lopsided rationalization of the lifeworld. In other words, vocational niches have been established in universities and public administration. Their function is to *manage* processes of enlightenment. And yes there is what I call an enlightenment industry in places like Australia, U.S, Europe etc . So it is literally the job of those people in the enlightenment industry to - in cybernetic terms - work towards mainatining homeostasis or systemic equilibrium. IMO, the problem with Habermas's position is that a functionalist/economic reason has also colonized these reserves of critical reason in higher education and public administration. Cheers, mattP _________________________________________________________________ Chat via SMS. Simply send 'CHAT' to 1889918. More info at http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/MoChat.asp?blipid=6800 --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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