Subject: Re: [HAB:] What makes a human right universal?
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:52:21 +0000


Seems correct. However the crucial question is what makes one 'organisation' 
better than the other. That human rights are universalisable (which they 
obviously are) is one question, whether they represent true universals is 
another question. The question of truth cannot be avoided and Habermas knows 
it.

regards
ali


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Subject: Re: [HAB:] What makes a human right universal?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:26:59 EST

In a message dated 11/3/2003 8:36:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mwtippett-AT-sympatico.ca writes:
Where or what is the changeable for Habermas and how is this
accessed such that the likelihood of an improved tomorrow is increased?


It seems that the changeable is nature, a mere succession of events that
lacks any sense without the moral interpretations of humans.  The 
univeralisizing
of basic democratic constitutional law is the forming or organizing of a
consistency of interpretation shared among all.  Nature is lawless and is 
merely
self-reproducing, not self-organizing.  Nature is the object of our
interpretation and not much more than matter in motion.  The existence of 
consciousness
organizes our interpretations of nature.

Fred Welfare


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