Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:06:00 EST Subject: Re: [HAB:] What makes a human right universal? In a message dated 11/28/2003 8:27:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, ali_m_rizvi-AT-hotmail.com writes: isnt moral claim one validity claim among other validity claims I think you are considering validity only in terms of Habermas' use of validity as the 3 or 4 validity claims: truth, rightness, well-formedness, and comprehensible. I happen to like Habermas' validity 'package.' But, one reason why Habermas' universal pragmatics is considered to be quasi-transcendental is because it operates primarily on the level of language, or linguistified action, and I do not mean to reduce all action to its descriptive level by characterizing TCA in this way. However, there is a distinction between moral judgment and moral action. If we hypothesize that action begins with a decision, hence cognitive, then we can ask why the results and consequences for an act did not accord with the intent and we will run up against not merely our cognitive limits, competencies, or capabilities, but also against the social nexus, the interfering and antagonistic social reality that does not simply react on the basis of its or others notions of compliance with a cooperative normative ideal but with a darker side: an envying, jealous group formation of diverse interests and powers. So, if we consider moral judgment only within the constraints of these 4 validity claims and not in terms of a wider form of validity, that which considers historical knowledge, dynamic reflexes of the group and its spokespersons, however darkly they speak or act, and the dilemmas that afflict action orientations, then we are considering moral judgment only as the rightness of our intent as encoded in speech and barely as the accuracy of our foreseen or plausible course of action intimated in the speech act. Morality as justice, or respect, or care is an everpresent consideration through the implementation or enacting of all intentions, but the validity of the possibilities has to be considered as effecting the development of judgments which goes beyond merely a linguistified rightness and extends to a validity that encompasses possible consequences. The differences between Habermas and others like Rawls, Gadamer, Gouldner as well as the proffered developments in psychoanalysis and developmental psychology advanced by Habermas as emancipatory suggests that validity in the quasi-transcendental communication theory of universal pragmatics is differentiated and that the moral aspect as rightness is not inclusive of the entire moral spectrum when observed in terms of the judgment-action difference, however, I do not think this permits a criticism of the validity claims of speech acts. A dedifferentiated concept of validity refers to a moral theory as much as to an apodictic theory of truth. Fred Welfare --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- This message may have contained attachments which were removed. Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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