Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:26:46 EDT
Subject: Re: [HAB:] re: Dallmayr and Habermas


 
In a message dated 8/14/2004 3:31:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
coherings-AT-yahoo.com writes:

Thus,  there is a plausible
hermeneutical hypothesis that the  subject-centered
reasoning that Habermas finds in "Heidegger" is  coming
projectively from Habermas (the psychoanalytic model
of critique  is useful here), critically explicable in
terms of a comparison of what  Habermas says about
Heidegger's specific views and what  Heidegger
says---i.e., critically explicable in terms of a close
reading  of Habermas's specific critical views of
Heidegger, in _Philosophical  Discourse of Modernity_
and _Postmetaphysical Thinking_. Thus,  Dallmay's
hypothesis that communicative reason has not escaped
the  Subjective Mind is credible---or, rather, can be
shown to be credible.  



Rorty hasn't misread Heidegger.  Neither have I.  In toto,  Heidegger is for 
death and therefore a deep skepticism hangs over his work as  this is not the 
truth.  Dallmayr was corrected by Habermas  in Chapter 3 of Religion and 
Rationality, Transcendence from Within,  Transcendence in the World.  The causal 
model of linguistic  understanding is mistaken because every speech action 
remains  incomplete without the 'yes' or 'no' response of a potential hearer.   
Therefore, communicative action is not a subject-centered orientation but  an 
intersubjective orientation.  Furthermore, the hearer must take the  position of 
a second person and give up the third person perspective of an  observer in 
favor of that of a participant and enter into an intersubjctively  shared 
lifeworld.  The critical difference here is that between a  teleological causal 
model characterized by domination and an intersubjective  model in which interest 
positions interpenetrate.  More deeply, in the  intersubjective orientation, 
validity claims are acknowledged and redeemed when  challenged whereas in the 
causal model the speaker is autistic, disregards  vaidity claims, and 
egocentrically utters commands or covertly attempts to  perlocute.
 
Fred Welfare


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