Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:45:22 EDT Subject: [HAB:] Re: Strategic Action In a message dated 8/14/2004 12:36:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, coherings-AT-yahoo.com writes: Habermas has become clearer about the fact that strategical action involves communicative action within "teleological" (goal-oriented) action, and communicative action always takes place within a teleological backdrop. Acting with others within strategical action is usually not manipulative, as organizational interaction is common defined by long-range projects and plans. Acting toward others manipulatively, i.e., regarding others as *elements* in systemic plans, is just that: manipulative, instrumentalist action. There's nothing especially strategical about it, in the planful sense of 'strategic'. Habermas earlier failed to distinguish the planful and instrumentalist senses of strategic. In On the Pragmatics of Communication, p118, Habermas states unequivocally that instrumental action is nonsocial action oriented towards success. This entire book spells out the definitions and gives numerous examples of the basic difference between strategtic action and communicative action. On p300, he states, "Thus, communicative action distinguishes itself from strategic action through the fact that successful action coordination canot be traced back to the purposive rationality of action orientations but to the rationally motivating force of achieving understanding." This theme runs through out OPC, I can find no deviation from it. Gary, I personally own every book and journal article published by or about Habermas, so if you have the reference where he collapses this distinction, I would like to know, right now! Fred Welfare --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- This message may have contained attachments which were removed. Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- --- from list habermas-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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