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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:18:22 +0800
From: malcolm riddoch <riddoch-AT-central.murdoch.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Heid & Jesus


>Yes: his pedigree is patent, no: Jesus, Paul, Augustine, Scotus, Luther,
>>Nietzsche...Heidegger?  A post modern, i.e. death-of-god, theology

Yes, the negative theology connection, not to mention Heidegger's early
Jesuit training, is very interesting, especially the stuff on Duns Scotus.
Apparently Heid. also thought of S&Z as an answer to Luther, a sort of new
Protestantism. The connection with Meister Eckhart also seems very strong.

>But, it really does floor me, the tradition's credulity on the point of his
>self-professed Greek origins.  Speaking casually, that strikes me as bizarre;
>while the former, Jesus, seems self-evident, pre-eminently
>unexceptionable....?
>
>Bob Scheetz

But as far as origins go, especially with Heidegger, aren't they always
multiple? He more or less starts his career and becomes famous for his
readings of Aristotle in the twenties so there is a greek provenance of
sorts, even if his later readings of Plato are dubious. But then the
critique of Platonism seems to be more a critique of Christian
neo-platonism than Plato's philosophy and so we come back to this
onto-theological strain of thought, and back to Heideger's Nietzsche. Not
that Nietzsche was averse to quoting the greeks, and to what degree is
Dyonisus the focus of will to power against Christian resentiment (but
maybe not against Christ himself)? And for this neo-classical sentiment in
Heidegger there are also of course origins in Holderlin and Hegel (and
Goethe?).

Then again the Aristotelean reading was a phenomenological one and how can
you go past Husserl as perhaps the defining origin, at least as far as
methodology goes? And then Lebensphilosophie in general, and Dilthey,
Natorp and others. And with Husserl comes Kant and the whole problem of
Heidegger's transcendentalism.

With so many origins for Heidegger's thinking, where should we strain our
credulity next?

Malcolm







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