File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_1998/heidegger.9802, message 14


Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:09:36 +0100
Subject: Re:  holism & hermeneutics
From: artefact-AT-t-online.de (Michael Eldred)


Cologne, 03 February 1998

Daniel McGrady schrieb:
> The individual shows itself at first according to a way of being.   So
> there must be individual in the mode of.   'The stone stones stonily'
> brings together different facets of da-sein, even though derivatively from
> the human that brings it out.   The modal is working as the hupokeimenon,
> that according to which it always presences if it is to be a stone.   And
> presencing accordingly it presences stonily.   The whole analysis requires
> working out the workings of sub-ject, ob-ject and pro-ject.  

Daniel, thank you for your thoughts. If ‘stonily’ is the hypokeimenon, i.e. 
underlies the presencing, isn’t it the ‘subject’? ‘Stonily’ then requires stone 
(ob-ject?) to presence in the open there of there-being. Is stonily presencing 
then a pro-ject thrown into the opening? 

> The sub-ject
> subsumes under a modal, the project applies it and the object stands
> against it.   This requires an analysis that I think possibly surprised
> Heidegger.  It is certainly not  a reciprocal relation of subject and
> object.   For the subject is  not in immediate relation to the object, but
> directs itself first to a modal in order to come under it, in order to
> access the object and let it stand out according to the mode which is
> presented.   Such an analysis of subjectivity shows it to be a form of
> submissiveness.

Who is the subject? Recall that in medieval philosophy the roles of subject and 
object were precisely the reverse of how we think of them today. Could our 
modern human subject become subject to, subjugated to, submit to stonily 
presencing which is granted to it? Such stonily presencing would be a whole 
experience, holistic, thus bringing us back to ‘holism & hermeneutics’, and this 
whole experience would not centre on the thing, the stone, the 
what-that-is-presencing-itself-stonily, but more the mood/modality of stonily 
prensencing, which is not restricted to things called stones. Thus stony silence 
is also an equivalent way of stonily presencing, not simply a metaphor. 
(Heidegger says that there is metaphor only in metaphysics.)

>Although Heidegger may have given the impression that
> objects are accessed by projects.   As though objects had a derivative mode
> of being from human projects.   Which holds that it is the subject that
> addresses the object.    But then this leads to an anthropocentric bearing
> upon things which Heidegger sought to deny.   Such a view is more akin to
> Sartre. 

H. did see that SuZ was still too close for comfort to the metaphysics of 
subjectivity. That’s why Dasein has to step back further to see that its 
projects are only possible because of the granting. 

> This is one reason why I said earlier that 'sustainability' is
> not Heideggerean.   It is Sartrean because it gives objects their being in
> terms of pour-soi, in this case pour-nous.   Take the environment as a huge
> larder and you can still treat it under sustainability.   

Yes, indeed, the notion of 'sustainability' is metaphysical through and through 
(cf. the recent contribution from Rozelle, Sydney). Even the word ‘sustain’ 
means ‘to keep a hold’.

> The method (methodos - [meta kai hodos] according to the way) must be
> ontologically open in that it is the way of accessing the stone as well as
> providing the  grounds for this x presenting itself in the form of this
> mode, according to this way.   Methods are abstractions from an original
> opening of the thing, so that now that we know how it opens, we can subject
> ourselves to that way, for the sake of opening it up in the same way.  
> Methods, ways, then form part of the clearing.    Ways in which we open,
> ways in which we know things open according to, ways which we merely have
> to subject, submit ourselves to so that they will open.

If you go that way, this will happen? How is this different from the way 
(methodology) of _techne_ and technology, which are also knowledge of the ways 
of getting at what one has in view, i.e. what is the difference between 
submitting to a way and using a way?

> Modals are merely the how of the presencing, which we hold open knowingly
> as ways in which we may presence others.   Presencing always requires
> being-there.   Modals have no being-there.   They are no-things.  There is
> nowhere they are.   Although if you want to presence them then you have to
> have to do so by earthing them, even when you want to keep them in abstract
> form.  Thus 'the way' is present in the form of scratchings.

So the way leaves an earthy trace of it having once been in modal resonance? 
Da-sein would then be, in the first place, an attunement with the moods of 
modality, things being merely props.

Michael
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