Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:42:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Language?


well said daniel.....

i've got a terrible case of strep.  i'm outta action, however i'm enjoying
the postings.  self-referentiality is crucial as i myself attempted to
point out.  language as a way of being and not language as a way of pondering.


the very best to all....



At 02:35 PM 5/22/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Michael Staples wrote:
>
>> Can we conclude that even if we can't be too precise about
>>defining language, we can agree that language as used in the
>>heideggerian sense transcends the notion of a system of signs and
>>signals, and at some point intersects the poetic (as developed by H.)?
>
>Michael, a brief word just before you sign off on this topic.  The
>self-referentiality of language. Heidegger in raising the problem of access
>to Sein ('to be') in Being and Time, shows how it belongs to the
>questioning of questioning.   It is not merely that we question in circles
>and try to catch our own tails, but that the circle is primed by the
>pursuit of 'to be'.   Such that the questioner _becomes_ questioning.  It
>is the _to be_ of and for the questioner.  The same with language.   The
>philosophical questioning of language as Heidegger shows the way, is not to
>discover what language is, the thing language is, whether a system of signs
>or whatever, but to pursue one's own orientation to language, such that one
>intensifies one's own language-being,   Although Being and Time has the
>makings of a poetic work, it is still shot through with the attempt to
>explicate in the form of a theory of Dasein.   But in the later work,
>Heidegger's work is not only more purely phenomenological, but in his quest
>to understand the poetical being of human being, this is self-referential
>in that his language/thought is the struggle to get into the way of poetic
>being.   This distinguishes him from a poet whose poetry is about something
>external to the poem.   Heidegger's poetical thinking is about what he is
>doing, such that he is doing it.   His poetry is on the way.
>
>Daniel
>
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>>> So language comes from poetic expression because language is not just
>> a system of signs but and expression of being.
>
>Greg, do we have enough on language to take back to our other
>discussion? Can we conclude that even if we can't be too precise about
>defining language, we can agree that language as used in the
>heideggerian sense transcends the notion of a system of signs and
>signals, and at some point intersects the poetic (as developed by H.)?
>
>Michael Staples
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