Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 11:33:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Math/Metaphysics In message <1CA69E22EC-AT-pluto.aum.edu>, Christopher Honey <ch1745-AT-pluto.aum.edu> writes >I really don't know much about symbolic logic (except for one class a >few years ago on it) and it's relationship to math, which is part of >which, but I'd always been told that math is part of logic. I'd >never really questioned it, except so far as to ask whether this was >just philosophers dealing with insecurities about the claims to truth >of math, however, I'd be happy to hear more about that, or if you >know any basic works dealing with it (preferably more recent than >Scotus), even though it's a little outside of the scope of this list. > >Christopher Honey >Dept of History >AUM > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- Pardon, folks, the following post is more in the nature of a book list than anything that should be posted, but it responds to the above. Christopher, for a really rice book that will give you the historical background for the current debates, I'd recommend Stephen Korner's book (I can't remember the title, Intro to Phil of Math, I think). But it covers the postions FROM which the current debates arise, so it is now of mostly of historical value. For the Logical Positivists' quasi-Logicists position and the epistemological advantages of it, you can look at Ayer's classic, Logic, Language, and Truth (maybe, Language, Truth and Logic; anyway, it's some permutation of these three words). (Also Bill Craig (the "Craig" of "Craig's Theorem" had a piece called "The Replacement of Auxiliary Expressions" published in the Phil Rev, in which a very powerful argument is presented for reductionism; the response to the position is that the initial 'definitional identifications" can't be achieved; this piece gave Reductionism a real big push). Arend Heyting had a beautiful piece called Intuitionism (written in the form of a dialogue). There is a new book out entitled Phil of Math and the Hist of Math, edited by Patricia Kitcher (MAYBE) (I can't remember: my problem is that I will be away from my books and study for about a year -- they are in Japan; I'm in England and Europe (sometimes) enjoying the rain (yuck)....). Of course, one of the classics in the area is the anthology edited by Benaceraff and Putnam (I heard that it's been recently re-issued with ammendments). Anything that Hartry Field writes in this area is very important (his new book, Science Without Numbers). Also Charles Chihara has a good book; and you might want to look at Hao Wang's stuff and at Godel's Collected Works (friends tell me that V.3 was just been published, and that it is a very nice collection; I haven't seen it yet). There's also an old, very short paperpack by "somebody" Newman and "somebody somebody" somebody else entitled Godel's Proof; it's a popularized treatment that's so-so. And Ray Smullyan's introductory stuff is always esoteric tremendous fun, but of outstanding quality of thought. He's an exceptionally astute philosopher, with a very deep grasp of Godel's work (as deep as his incredibly long, beautiful flowing white hair is long (unless he got it cut, of course)). I'd be sceptical of Stephen Penrose's arguments, which stem from an old argument by Lukacs (if I remember correctly), which rest on a misunderstanding of Godel (one which Putnam has pointed out); remember correctly)), and would read Hofstader's Godel, Escher and Bach only FOR FUN. John Searle's Mind's Brains and Science is great (first presented over the BBC in the Reith Lecture Series, about ten years ago (there was a lot of excitement here in London then: everyone was curious how well the dialectic between him and Colin McGinn would go ...)). Of course, Hubert Dreyfus (What's Computers Still Can't Do (as well as the earlier, What Computers Cant Do (I think this was written with his brother who teaches Electrical Engineering at Berkeley also). Terry Winograd's and Fernando Flores's old book, Understanding Computers and Cognition (Winograd was the one to design URDLU, the first 'sophisticated' language understander; he now does courses on Heidegger at Stanford). There's a lot of technical stuff: Hartley Rogers, Stephen Kleene, but, the best intro book to the technically precise material (I think) is Martin Davis's book: Computability and Undecidability (Dover now has got a copy out which is cheap and has the important appendix which Davis later added to the first publication). It is written with a very rare clarity and, so, makes for easy reading, believe it or not; like any 'math/logic' text you read it with a paper and pencil in hand (Lewis Carrol's advice). Anyway, those books are for a healthy diet on the problems. enjoy, jim --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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