Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:07:05 -0500
Subject: RE: FW: Self-evidently so ...


Perhaps the following text could be of use in this discussion. It is from SuZ 212:

"In the order of the ways in which things are connected in their ontological 
foundations and in the order ot any possible categorial and existential 
demonstration, Reality is referred back to the phenomenon of care. But the fact 
that Reality is ontologically grounded in the Being of Dasein does not signify 
that only when Dasein exists and as long as Dasein exists, can the Real be as 
that which it itself it is. Of course only as long as Dasein is (that is, only as 
long as an understanding of Being is ontically possible), 'is there' Being [or 
rather, 'it gives' (es gibt)]. When Dasein does not exist, 'independence' 'is' not 
either, nor 'is' the 'in-itself'. In such a case this sort of thing can be neither 
understood nor not understood. In such a case even entities within-the-world 
can neither be discovered nor lie hidden. In such a case it cannot be said that 
entities are, nor can it be said that they are not. But now, as long as there is 
an understanding of Being and therefore an understanding of presence-at-hand, 
it can indeed be said that in this case entities will still continue to be. As we 
have noted, Being (not entities) is dependent upon the understanding of Being; 
that is to say, Reality (not the Real) is dependent upon care."

Anthony Crifasi


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