From: "Prof. Dr. Rafael Capurro" <capurro-AT-hbi-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: meaning Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:56:46 +0200 Greg, just some thoughts on ontic/ontological: I look at the door and see it as a thing with some properties: it is two meters high, white, made of wood etc. But what is the meaning of this door here in my room? I use it to protect myself from noises, for instance, or to separate my working room from the living room etc. I see now the door in its being within the realm of (my) existence. The first _as_ is _ontic_, the second one is _ontologic_. In order to take an _ontologic_ view of things I have to be myself of the art of a ontic-ontologic being. Heidegger's attempt in Being & Time is just one attempt to look at this ontic characterist of human beings: to be ontologic, i.e. to open a realm of possibilities, where things can be seen not only as having some properties _in themselves_ but also some properties _for us_ as far as we are a project of being (or _casting_ beings). This is, prima facie, a _subjectivist_ viewpoint, at least if you take for granted that things are just there, with their properties etc. (naive realism). The problem is that if we take this ontic view on ourselves we just fail to see what (how) we (also) are. The way we are pervades everything as far as we are able to let things appear in an ontic-ontological realm (including, of course, the other human beings). I suppose that in your clinic work it is important to see this difference (not just to _use_ it, as you surely do all the time...) as far as a _patient_ is not only ontic (a thing with properties) but ontic-ontologic. The ontological realm is the realm of openness and veil given (!) and the question is how far can we keep the openness (in the temporal-spatial sense which always means the temporal-spatial-life and -meaning). For Medard Boss is this the crucial point of _Daseinsanalyse_, i.e. the intention of _Sorge_ in the sense of taking for _instead_ of the other (as far as the other is not able to do it: _einspringende-beherrschende Fuersorgee) or giving her/him her/his openness (_vorspringende-befreiende Fürsorge), as far as each one of us is capable of different dimensions of openness... best regards rafael --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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