Subject: Re: As usual
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:06:14 -0500




Hi Bob,
I don't quite understand what you are saying -- "a fly-by," "over my
head,"....
It's all too educated for me ....



jim,
    sorry bout dat...
your q,the heid//plato fascism parallel, got me going.
intending first, as you suggest,
to outline the meaning of nazism/fascism,
then situate heid and plato

...the thing got out of hand
...the hour too late, etc

and anyway, the way you pose it,
i.e. as corollary to their anthropologies...
defeating for me.

clearly both collaborated in the structure.
and each was doubtless brutalized by his times.
but, both looked for a quantum leap
to a higher order polis or utopia,
under the rectorship of academics...
ultimately, howsoever suffuse
with horrific (realistic?) regimens,
an anti-vision to fascist will-to-power,
...(shrug) i suppose?
et tu?

bob
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Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 6:18 AM
Subject: As usual


>
>Was Plato a fascist?
>
>For many reasons,  I genuinuely do not know; just two of those reasons
>are that I don't know what a fascism is, nor whether Plato's vision in
>theRepublik of the tripartite State would qualify as such.
>However, let's suppose his vision is fascistic.
>In P's case, there is an immediate (almost deductive) relation between
>his analysis of the kind of creature that we are, namely, his tripartite
>view of the Soul, and his tripartite view of the State.
>P's metaphysics can be 'blamed' for his fascism.
>
>Is the same true of H? Is there such an immediate relation between his
>Dasein-construal of the kind of creature that we are and his membership
>to NS -- this membership interpreted as H's confirmation that NS is
>political arrangement proper for creatures like ourselves? (I would
>prefer to ignore the so-called 'argment' of Farias).
>
>Where is the argument for this? Or are these 'allegations' about the
>relation merely cases of the informal fallacy of 'guilt by association'?
>
>Could the 'relation', if you will, have been more in tune with that
>between Hume's skeptical doubts (entertained inside the study) and his
>enjoyment of Backgammon (entertained outside his study).
>
>On the other hand, perhaps, these questions are wildly naive, romantic,
>idealistic, ....?
>jim
>
>PS. Jan, thanks much for the post. I'm reading it now and will get back to
you.
>
>
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