Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 11:50:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Heidegger and the Hebrew Tradition


         Reply to:   Re: Heidegger and the Hebrew Tradition
Raphael,

Prof. Dr. Rafael Capurro wrote:

>>>
>>>>>Aside from her basic thesis, which I agree is overstated, is there
>>>>anything else you found striking in Zarader's work?>
>>>>
>>>>Here some hints:
>>>>La dette impensee:
>>>>1) p. 63: ecoute de l'etre/ecoute de dieu (H. / Levinas): the first one
>is
>>>>open and not fixed to a content... , but the structure of the word is
>>>analogue :
>>>>a _call_ coming from abroad (see: my reference to _angelia_)


Again, we agree.  I see a definite parallel/analogue(It's hard to know which word to use to appropriately describe similar ideas in two different texts which might very well derive from a simlar source in Dasein's "lived experience" of hermeneutical ontology) between Heidegger's re-calling of the call(of being) which he usually "re-issues" from his reading/performance of a passage in a classical philosophical or poetic text, and similar moments which are central to the Jewish reading of key passages in the Pentateuch.  I have two essays on this striking parallel on my home page, but I can quickly point here to the Torah's constant admonition to" hear ("Shmah" in the Hebrew which is the same word in Biblical hebrew for "understand") the words of Yahweh," to " meditate upon them day and night," "teach them diligently ( Augustine picks this up in the word in his famous "deligere. . .") to your children," etc., all pointing to a closely connected relationship between the "call of the words" (rhetoric) and interpreting/understanding the words ( hermeneutics).

You go on:

>>>>2) p. 65: mantis and nabi: poets are not prophets. The biblical prophet
>>>>_gives his mouth_ to other words, the Greek prophet is inspired, less
>than
>>>a
>>>>mediator (again here: the question of transmitting/anouncing a message)
>>>>3) p. 85: appel et ecoute,memoire et fidelite, reconnaissance et action
>de
>>>>graces: all these are concepts basic to the Bible and to H. (Was heisst
>>>denken).
>>>>Zarader thinks that H. does not refer to this origin and even deletes
>this
>>>>origin... (p. 98)  (this theses should be, in my view, criticized... now)
>>>>4) p. 135: thinking and faith: take care of the openness (into which the
>>>>god can come) (again: manifestation, announcement)

The relationship between the role of prophet, the prophetic word, the call of being is ambiguous in both Greek and Hebrew I think.  There is a passage in Plato's Timaeus, I think, where Mantike and hermeneutike are juxtaposed in a way which is typical "pollaxus legomenon" ( Heidegger's "focused ambiguity").  Isn't there always a necessary mantic accompaniment to prophecy, no matter how much credit is given to/taken by the prophet for the semantic orgination of the words he speaks?  In the Plato passage, the role of hermeneutike seems to be to interpret what  mantike might say in the course of an incomprehensible trance.  But I'm not on solid ground here with the GREEK.

In the Hebrew, on the other hand, the prophets ( "nevi'im) exist on a kind of hierachy leading torwards " wisdom," which under the influence of Greek became philosopophy.  Maimonides insisted on the "wisdom" of the prophets, but even here, there is a hierachry with Moses of course at the top, as "teacher/speaker" (Fuersprecher?) of God's words.

Some very rich connections here.

Thanks,

Allen

Allen Scult
515 271 2869
http://www.mac.drake.edu/s/scult/scult.html




>>>>
>>>>5) p. 179: the question of time: Paulus and Kairos: something arrives
>>>>without pre-view: this is Hebrew Time  (vs. chronological Greek time
>>>(Thessal. Letter)
>>>>(she speaks of a disconnection between Ancient and New Testament at H. I
>>>>think we should investigate H. theological sources, particularly K. Braig
>>>and
>>>>others.. such as Schelling, Boehme; Kabbala): she puts this as a general
>>>problem of Wester
>>>>thinking (but connections to Ricoeur, Derrida (Geist/ruah)(!), Levinas
>and
>>>>Lyotard are necessary for this task too). According to Ricoeur (p.199)
>>>Hebrew
>>>>heritage implies a _call_ (appel) (and is not concerned with Being/being)
>>>(Being
>>>>should then be conceived as a being). My question: What H. is
>>>doing/thinking is
>>>>precisely to think Being as _call_ (the book by A. Ronell is a persiflage
>>>on
>>>>this...). The general question is the relationship between the Hebrew
>>>heritage and Western
>>>>Thinking. (in my view: this has to be considered as a special (!)
>question
>>>>related to the more general problem of intercultural aspects with other
>>>>traditions: for instance the question if there is a non-european
>>>philosophy. My thesis: a
>>>>non-european philosophy is only possible when there is a connection with
>>>>european philosophy (which is a tautology)
>>>>
>>>>In H. et les parlores de l origine she speaks about Ereignis as donation
>>>>(p. 248), where the thinking of ground looses all its force. In his
>>>introduction
>>>>Levinas  criticizes (once again) the conception of Being as Neutrum and
>>>insists on
>>>>_l'humain_, on subjectivity and personality... I think he misunderstands
>>H.
>>>>completely on this. H. is seen as the one who puts the land before man
>>>(but: if
>>>>this is Hebrew thinking, then it is very hard to understand what now
>>>happens in
>>>>Israel, in the name of the Holy Land... Levinas writes: la personne est
>>>plus
>>>>sainte qu un terre, meme quand la terre est Terre Sainte) Die Erde is not
>>>the land, it
>>>>is exactly the contrary, namely that which withdraws itself (with regard
>>to
>>>the
>>>>World). And: Numeri XIV, 6, to which Levinas refers, includes both
>>>(calomnis on
>>>>the land and on Moises, which Levinas regards as non-comparable! Is this,
>>I
>>>mean,
>>>>Levinas' interpreation, Hebrew thinking? of Levinas interpretation of
>>>it?...).
>>>>Anyway: the question of Earth/World, Holy Land etc. is much more
>>>complicated in both
>>>>thinkings that Zarader (and Levinas) demonstrate...
>>>>kind regards
>>>>Rafael
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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