File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_1999/heidegger.9901, message 31


Subject: Re: Heidegger and the Hebrew Tradition
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:27:44 -0500



On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:44:07 -0500 bob scheetz <rscheetz-AT-cboss.com>
wrote:

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> Henry,
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> >... the "absolutes" that my work-for-a-living mentors
> >have taught me overthe years-- "things are never what
> >they appear"; "things never work out the way you plan, etc."
> >This has as much to do with politics & religion as it does
> >fitting a cabinet on a kitchen wall or figuring out wht the damn
> >tractor ain't got spark.
>
> isn't yerz the ironical mood of de-struktion,
> but once "the town lies beaten flat,
> those who build again are gay"...no?

nope, mine sees it kinda flattened out already
and in need of a little inflationary realism.


> >i'm of the impression that marx, maybe mostly inadvertently,
> >reminded that part of the job of the clearing is to resist
> >theory-- often at the expense of the empowered and to the amusement
> >of the pragmatic.  That and a sense of justice give the obvious:
> >a realistically level playing field.  Add a dose of "progress"
> >and one gets a plan, a theory, an ideology-- (so mostly the
> >working class has had to grade that field level by hand.)
>
> bingo! i think
> only, fergit "progress", eh...( hate progress)
> but i think that catches it...
> and, isn't that "sense of justice" not a nothing?
> a myth-construct... oresteia, founded in an
> overcoming the chthonic tribal code of vendetta...
> enhancing...citifying, dasien?
> ..."fair attic shape dost tease us out of thot"

hate? hell, naw!  suspicious, damn fer sure; but mostly cause
the progress of my perception has been who screws the most (masses)
wins; 'haps along the way love gits made but only as a marginalized
and objectified sujet=C9 (how 'bout them rabbits up in DC?)


> >ah, the tech/nihilism thing, my fav.
> >some see that as the main thrust and just around the corner,
> >but it is something we go thru and out the other side of all
> >together if at different times, just like the death a'gawd:
> >some left early, some are now left and don't know it/some do;
> >some are still being extradited from jerusalem even as i type.
> >and some, maybe me, just see it as the big dream composed of
> >all those others. . . somehow. . .
>
> this is a hard doctrine...
> any tradesman 'll tell ya he's nothing without his kit.
> makers exult in the implements of thier craft.
> maybe tech is occlusive only where
> understanding, sensibility, virtue is deficient
> ...bourgeois false consciousness, lumpen chauvinism, effete anomie...

the kit HAS gotten out-of-hand, Doc
& you suggest good stuff RE its occludeness; by the by,
could those last 3 be named husserl heidegger and derrida?


> >...just both, aren't there more?
>
> there's sic et non
> ...what else?
>
> bob
>

well, fer starters, how 'bout
that dang "formal indicator" whatchacallit?
there's also a shit pot full of either/or,
and the endless gaze which we mostly
would rather change the subject
while not having to count our (last) breath

i guess i'm saying that there are endless,
inexhaustable conversations

hank



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