File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2001/heidegger.0101, message 56


Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:23:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Gary Moore <gottlos45-AT-mail.com>
Subject: My death for world community


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From: "Gary C Moore" <gottlos75-AT-mindspring.com>
To: existentialism-dialognet-AT-egroups.com
Sent: January 12, 2001 9:21:26 AM GMT
Subject: My death for world community


Dear Roganov Sergey, or is it Sergey Roganov?

I find your abstract tremendously strange and thoroughly fascinating. You
throw things in my face that usually I would reject with utter disdain as
the carping of hypocrites, yet you are so honest sounding, so depth seeming,
I cannot help but admire you, yet barely understand you while at the same
moment getting wonderful gleanings of thoughts completely new to me. Can you
unpack your thoughts, without destroying them, for crass and thoroughly
everyday minds such as my own? You seemingly sound as if you have something
very originary beginning here, and I would like to attack it and admire it
at the same time. But then maybe I am asking you to corrupt yourself, a real
possibility, a definite risk. Is it worthwhile to you? or are you strong
enough to flash out like lightning in the broad and open daylight where
everything tends to degenerate into the weary same? I am going to send your
abstract around to other groups. You should not hide, or I think you should
not, in such a quiet place as existentialism-dialognet. But then on the
other hand you may well bring it notoriety. But then the web is a public
forum, open to the world,a possibly dreadful place to just stumble into.
Please send more.

'Sincerely

Gary C. Moore

~X~X~

----- Original Message -----
From: Roganov Sergey <roganov-AT-go.com>
To: <existentialism-dialognet-AT-egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:40 AM
Subject: [existentialism-dialognet] My death for world community


The Manifest of Homo Mortem
(abstract)

The cultural development becomes the play on cemetery long ago. What is the
man who doesn't need to die? Only a mould of eternity. And the main problem
which I tried to decide - whom belong the realization of my own death to? To
Nature? To God? I know the single solution of that problem - the realization
of my own death may belong only to me, and must belong to me. Nobody else. I
realize my own death with my own earth efforts like as everybody does.
The world has altered now. Not only old humanism is dead but the death of
lonely man in the shadow of any Unity is dead too. If I shouldn't to die,
should I to live? Right-to-death belong not only to ill human being but to
every earth person now. We can't build the new world among many nations,
states and religions - we forget how we should die. The future belong to
Homo mortem.
My owls of Minerva flies in the twilight of my earth way. I always thought
that my death would be something solemn and interest, but really it happened
as prose event and like as people don't note the death of somebody at once
and must get accustomed to "dead" body of relatives or friends, so I don't
accustomed to my own death at once. When I wrought the book " The gospel
from godman. Posthumously. Personally" I fully understood that I was died. I
get the possibility to speak clearly, to listen attentively each person. Our
century looks at the death as if the death is the way to another world -
that is not the matter how we understand that another world, and for many
people of our millennium the death itself remains as the door to another
order. I would like to follow my own earth way - to die with my own brain
and hands or, in other words, to create the history of my own non-being, my
death and to try look at the human world when I follow my own way as dead
person yet. And as dead man I can sincerely speak to others and I can reveal
my own world for others.
Mortal eternity - earth people make only first steps to understanding of
their dearth, the place of death in the world history and in the history of
every person. The death of free finite being may be only finite one. The
death is not an instant event, but the long earth process for every human
being. The history of death (the earth non-Being) is real human process
which help us to stand in itself and in the present. The instant death
belongs to murders only. Earth being of human death is really non-being of a
murder, of ruthless revolution, of a terrorism.
I wouldn't like to appeal to cultured world, or, in other words, to the
history of men and woman. There always exist only the family. Real family is
earth non-being of love. Only family knows the answers. They know how to
follow the history of earth world. Necessity of death still rules the human
world and will rule till we encounter the simple problem - how can we live
in the present, not in the future or past. Families - earth multitude of
human being demands both the starting point and finish. They have only one
future - their children, their actual present. Only lonely man and woman can
cry out in the future and in the past "Give us eternity, give us eternity!!"
(for what?!) and only families know how to follow silently its earth way in
the eternal present. When the great history tired to conquer the peaks it
get into the family where human history really contemplates, emerges and
starts its way into the heaven. It is family, which save the world and opens
the door to and for another worlds. I don't know what will the future
remember, deed, dream but there will not be any new heaven for us. In any
case, I hope on such miraculous way of history.



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