Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:39:30 +0100
Subject: Re: time
From: sezgin <sezgin-AT-unternehmen.com>




> Von: Rene de Bakker <rbakker-AT-bs18.bs.uva.nl>
> Antworten an: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Datum: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:42:56 +0100
> An: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Betreff: Re: time
> 
> At 15:30 23-3-01 +0100, you wrote:
>>>> Ich leb' mein Leben in Kreisen, in Ringen,
>>>> weiss nicht, ob mir wird der naechste gelingen...
>>>> 
>>>> A poor, quick translation could read:
>>>> 
>>>> I live my life in circles, rings,
>>>> I do not know if I will reach the next...
>>>> 
>>>> My friends comment along with this was, that in each circle there is a
>>>> "door" to a "higher" circle of Dasein - and that one must be alert in
> order
>>>> not to overlook it and not to have to go around once again in the same
>>>> circle.
>>> 
>>> Hi Malik,
>>> 
>>> Makes me think of Leibniz. In the monadology he speaks of a
>>> "plus haut theatre". By reflecting concepts like substance
>>> or telos, the monad can lift himself up to a higher theatre.
>>> 
>>> Heidegger, on the contrary, always heads down-, or backwards.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sei gegruesst, Rene.
>> 
>> Vielleicht sollte ich mir 'quick responses' abgewoehnen.
> 
> 
> No, I think fresh from the press, as we say, is the best.

Nun, du hast es so gewollt... ; )


> 
>> Ich hatte --higher-- in Anfhrungszeichen geschrieben. Ich lese es im Lichte
>> von Eigentlichkeit und Gebraucht-werden, das als stiller Ruf des Seyns
>> beginnt.
> 
> But it is Rilke, not Heidegger (or Leibniz).

However, it is 'me' and 'you' bringing it into the spoken. Perhaps we might
discover in and through Rilke and Heidegger what remained hidden to them ?
Michael's 'Capital and Technology' is one of the best examples that this is
possible.

By the way: the same friend quoted some statements from a letter of Rilke
which he wrote to a certain lady on account of her husbands death (please
excuse me that I can not be more detailed without having to ask back). It is
striking how one is reminded by what he says about death of what is in
Seinsdenken called Ganz-sein.



> And is "high" always
> the same? 
> 

Depends on 'where' you stand...
>
> Ueber allen Gipfeln ist Ruh'
> 



> Heidegger's question: what means 'is' here?

Ueber allen Gipfeln: Ruh'  ?!?


> 
> Gruss,
> 
Gruss zurueck,



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