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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:32:00 +0100
From: Rene de Bakker <rbakker-AT-bs18.bs.uva.nl>
Subject: RE: time


Hi David,

My answer will have to wait till next week. In half an hour 
I will turn to the material side of life.
For now, I can already say, that over against theists I'm
surely atheist, and over against idealists I would hold
on to Heidegger's abysmal-sensuous, or (maybe) Kenneth's
sensing spirit (sinnender Geist)

regards,

Rene



At 09:48 23-3-01 -0600, you wrote:
>>===== Original Message From Rene de Bakker <rbakker-AT-bs18.bs.uva.nl> ====>>At 10:27 21-3-01 -0600, David Schenk wrote:
>>
>>David,
>>
>>Even stronger. Not only analytic philosophy, but also the Dreyfus school
>>will find itself there, when they go on restricting themselves to the
>>"project" of BT, the way they do. This background should be the
>>"problematical",
>>but I understand that someone like Searle deposits it simply in the brains,
>>another word for computer. Also Dreyfus' articles on ontological and
>>car driving experts point into this direction. And MIT is, as far as I can
>>see from here, busy building-in the non-representational background into AI.
>>Now, as a part of reality, this is interesting, already bacause it can't be
>>stopped,
>>but not as philosophy.
>>
>[...]
>>
>>Rene
>>
>>
>>-----------------------------------
>>drs. Ren de Bakker
>>Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
>>Afdeling Catalogisering
>>tel. 020-5252368
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Heheheh.  Hi, Rene.
>
>I think I understand the basis for your earlier claim now.  Please correct
>me if I'm wrong about this, but it appears you want to define philosophy
>in such a way that analytic philosophy turns out not to really be
>philosophy, yes?
>
>Is your contention the familiar one, that analytic philosophy, for all its
>clarity, precision, and argumentative tidiness, just fails to address any
>of the truly philosophical questions in life and so gets bogged down in
>very detailed accounts of things about which no one really cares?  Or is
>it rather that what were once genuinely philosophical subjects of
>investigation within analytic philosophy are now within the domain of
>natural science?  From your note, you seem to hold the latter, but I'm
>uncertain.  In any case, let me intitiate a small philosophical foreign
>exchange session here by taking up a very popular and entirely silly myth.
>The myth is that all analytic philosophers are materialists of one sort or
>another.
>
>Sheer poppycock.  In point of fact, Searle himself is not a materialist (not
>really, anyway).  If his views on the nature of mind are close to any
>others, they are closest to what is called _property dualism_.  Furthermore,
>almost no one in my own department is a materialist and those who are seem
>vaguely ashamed of it (not sure why).  One of the fastest growing fields of
>study is actually philosophy of religion, wherein more than a few dyed-in-
>the-wool *THEISTS* can be found.  *They* certainly aren't trying to boil
>everything down to brain functions...
>
>Anyway, I'm much more interested in your reasons for contending (if indeed
>you do) that what presently goes on in analytic philosophy is not philosophy,
>properly speaking.  Please confirm this for me, because I am reading between
>the lines a bit, here, and I think we both know that that is a dodgy
>business.  I don't want to saddle you with any erroneous views you do not
>happen to hold-- the ones you do hold are what I'm after.  ;)
>
>
>I look forward to hearing from you,
>
>David
>
>
>P.S.-- Sorry for that double-post I sent you before.  I hit the reply
>button and my emailer decided that meant the message should go directly
>to you instead of to the list.  Not what I wanted at all.
>
>
>
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>

-----------------------------------
drs. René de Bakker
Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
Afdeling Catalogisering 
tel. 020-5252368              


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